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This is something that i got thinking about recently after chatting with another member here.
"Ahem", basically this forum is about sharing info and experiences to help improve the quality of the fish keeping experience itself in general, by offering our fish and critters a better quality of life so we can enjoy them more and they enjoy being with us more, etc, etc...

Some problems that have arisen in some area's though, appear that knowledge is getting more generalise about fish rather than concentrating on each fishs needs.
For example, with a lot of the wonderful fish profiles here in the fish index, the info tends to be very basic and short, sometimes the profile doesn't even include very vital peices of info.
This has led to people becomming less familar with what makes each fish very different for the next- for example, a fish swimming at weird angles, or continiuosly hiding or hanging around on its own, would make many fish keepers raise the alarm, but for some fish species this is normal behavior.

Some fish are very prone to getting particular desease, particually when kept in certain conditions (for example, mollys are prone to getting deseases like fungus and finrot when not kept in very alkeline or slightly brackish water, so the best cure is salt rather than chemicals), there is often no say in profiles on what certain deseases or physical issues fish are prone to or the best way to treat the particular fish at hand.

Lists of various good or bad tankmates to keep with certain fish are often missing from their profiles, or exact details about their habitat too (for example, dwarf gourami's need a very planted tank, but what sorts of plants should you go for and how should you arrange them? How tall, short, dense or sparse should the plants ideally be?).

Information on behavior is sometimes absent or vague as well- for example, common plecs are very peaceful pleco's, but there are cases of them growing very grouchy over other plecs in their tanks over time and may even go to lengths of killing less dominant ones over time.


These differences in info given could mean someone mistaking their fish for being ill when it isn't, or not treating or looking after the fish correctly when it in need of help. Its the difference between having a lot of stressed out fish, or a tank full of happy and content ones.
What do you guys think? Do the fish index profiles need updating as well as our general knowledge?
 
I personaly see what you're saying but I think there's nothing wrong with simply posting on existing profile threads with the info that's been left out. It's urnealistic to expect every profile to contain all the info. on the fish it's concerned with but we're allowed to post replies with extra tid bits so I don't think that's realy a problem.
It could even be argued that keeping the main post short encourages people to read through the profile carefuly when researching the fish. After all, you must know as well as I that a lot of people don't bother to research their fish at all - providing an easy-to-read and concise but general profile, especialy with clear-cut headings, is ideal for these people and at least starts them out on the right track. With simple profiles within easy reach, they can still ask questions on the board for more particular info. - like with the proper tank setup and signs of disease (or not as the case may be) issues you raised.
Let me clarify, however, that I'm not disagreeing - it would be great if we could include everything in the profiles - I just think it's a little unrealistic so would settle instead for replying with any extra info. I feel should be included.
 
I actually really think Tokis could be on to something here.

As great as I think these forums are, this site's profiles are not the first I go to for research, actually not even in the top 3. Updating the profiles with as much detail as possible would turn this site from a really good one to a really great one in my book.

I really like the profiles on mongabay.com, for example. Have lots on info on the fish's natural habitat (and its natural water's pH and hardness) and what it eats in the wild. The profiles aren't super-long, and not every species are on there, but what is there has every field filled in in a non-generic sort of way (which I think is what Tokis is talking about)

For detail, the profiles on skepticalaquarist.com are unbelievable. He's got a lot fewer species, and I really don't know where he gets all his info, but it is incredible. Look at this page on tetras for example: http://www.skepticalaquarist.com/docs/fishes/tetras.shtml

Only 9 tetras (well, 8 and 1 pencil fish), but look at all the info there.

Again, I can only express my opinion that if those profiles can be made as complete and detailed as possible , I think that this website could become the best on the Internet.
 
I absolutely agree 100%. I haven't done many profiles for the Index (partly because I don't have that large a variety of fish and many of the common profiles have already been done) - but those have done, I've tried to be as informative as I can wtih examples of fish behaviour etc. etc. and my experience with them.
 
I tend to agree with the posts above. Newer posts could be a bit more scrutinized for better info. However, an easier way to get around this would be for people who own the fish, or, consider themselves highly knowledgable on the species, to leave an updated info post which could be appproved for the addition.

Most posts to each index addition are removed/deleted unless they offer something of benefit, eg. a larger, clearer photo of the particular species or results on successful breeding techniques. SH
 
I agree too, Tokis-Phoenix :)

I'll start a thread in the Mod's forum and direct the other mods to this one.

When we start something new at TFF, we do the best we can to get things off to a good start, then we review them later to see if we can make improvements. Perhaps now might be a good time to take another look at this. :D
 
I agree too, Tokis-Phoenix :)

I'll start a thread in the Mod's forum and direct the other mods to this one.

When we start something new at TFF, we do the best we can to get things off to a good start, then we review them later to see if we can make improvements. Perhaps now might be a good time to take another look at this. :D

Thanks Inchworm :D !
 

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