Another Victim Of Mts

Personally, I like the first one best, as I prefer to be able to see some of the hardscape after filling out. These round boulders will easily get overgrown, and then you won't see them anymore. I alsto like tye kind of 'tunnel' effect that you created with the 2 rocks pointing towards each other.
 
I dunno, he could go with taller plants behind the boulders and create a shape behind them, and then lower plants around the boulders maybe. Might be left with a lot of open space though so it depends on the look he wants to go with :)
 
garuf your drawings are actually quite remarkable no joke, its good how did you draw stuff just using paint ?
 
garuf your drawings are actually quite remarkable no joke, its good how did you draw stuff just using paint ?
wow, thanks, yeah I only use ms paint I have photoshop but don't know how to use it paints more than enough for anything i ever want to draw.

A GARETH CALLEAR GUIDE TO MS PAINT
the most important thing to do with paint it to work in layers, firstly I draw the tank once I'm happy with that I add substrate flat initial then I alter it so it's either sloped back of mounded so on, colour is the next step pick a colour or edit a colour you want to use and flood fill the substrate.
once you've done this pick a entirely different colour (I normally use pink it stands out more) and fill the tank sides it will look strange but that's important.
go back onto the pencil/pen tool and roughly not worrying about having multiple lines sketch out your hardscape, for me it was the boulders now select the rubber tool (yes rubber, don't worry you'll love this trick) and right click the colour of your substrate using the pipette tool and then select the colour you want to have your boulders and simply hold down the right key and rub them out! This will make them entirely the colour you want. repeat again with the unrelated colour of the tank and mark out those boulders but leave the black lines intact. MAGIC!
Now you will have a very roughly coloured in layout, fill all the areas within the tank the same colour as the boulders.
go back onto your colour bar and select a colour for your substrate and fill in the substrate and TADA. the boulders are one colour and the substrate is no longer the same colour as the boulders. Now fill the back of your tank white and then using the rubber tool again in the same way as before add highlights by right clicking using the pipette tool on the boulders colour and then selecting a lighter colour of it add highlights where ever light will hit the rock or if the shape is rounder as a random top half shading (see my last hard scape).
now were getting there, if you want to add plants and have a background nows the time to fill it in, fill it in and now we can get to drawing plants, firstly plants need only be suggestions so simply select the pencil tool and draw in what you think looks nice then go over them using the brush tool, change the colour of the green a few times and do the same again to suggest diffrent species, finaly using the spray can tool and a dark green or greeny brown colour give it all a once over this will suggest stem plants variations in light and plant and also makes it look a bit less flat.
And there you have it how I use paint to draw my hardscapes.
 
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and here it is planted
sorry for the poor quality of this one I got complacent while doing it because I was eating some cereal.
I really like this one but I do think the hardscape is too low so I might add some driftwood in there for something extra
what do you reckon?
 
Its good, but I think theres something missing... Not sure what though. Maybe it needs more height in one of the corners, like deeper substrate.
 
Its good, but I think theres something missing... Not sure what though. Maybe it needs more height in one of the corners, like deeper substrate.
Hmm I know exactly what you mean, I'll hit up paint later and get a revamped one drawn up. Id love to do a planted version of the MBU thats on the last page of this months PFK but they're such polar opposites I don't think its possible.
I think ill just go with the first one and have a few goes at altering and tinkering with it.
 
hardscape13at0.png

and here it is planted
sorry for the poor quality of this one I got complacent while doing it because I was eating some cereal.
I really like this one but I do think the hardscape is too low so I might add some driftwood in there for something extra
what do you reckon?

Hmm, I'd loose the tall plants on the right, move all the bigger rocks to the left, and put the smaller ones
going towards the right (getting smaller), and have the right with a small grass carpet.

If that makes any sense :huh:

But thats just my opinion, either way, an awesome tank :good:
 
hardscape13at0.png

and here it is planted
sorry for the poor quality of this one I got complacent while doing it because I was eating some cereal.
I really like this one but I do think the hardscape is too low so I might add some driftwood in there for something extra
what do you reckon?

Hmm, I'd loose the tall plants on the right, move all the bigger rocks to the left, and put the smaller ones
going towards the right (getting smaller), and have the right with a small grass carpet.

If that makes any sense :huh:

But thats just my opinion, either way, an awesome tank :good:
Hmm interesting.
I do like that suggestion.
ill draw it up and post it up later today/before Thursday lol.
one thing I would do though is not have it so its entirely big rocks it would have a few small ones in randomly to promote the illusion of a naturally occurring scape.
 
Sounds cool :)

I think that two sets of tall plants kind of distract you a bit, rarther then a "feature" corner/side lol
 
Sounds cool :)

I think that two sets of tall plants kind of distract you a bit, rarther then a "feature" corner/side lol
yeah I just read a amano article that says much the same, It means the scape becomes too symmetrical which should be avoided.
 
IMO It looks great as it is Garuf.

Rocks on the river bed dont go from Large to small, and most people should note that if you look at a river there are tall plants on either side of it.

I think people should start looking at nature rather than this constructed idea of a 'nature' aquarium which I think (more often than not bar a few exceptions) looks very manmade.

I think your picture is very aesthetically pleasing to the eye. Only thing I would say that it WILL look quite different in real life mainly due to the whiteness you have in your picture.

Maybe try using a very slight off white to get your effect with the picture and for the real life background you could use white.

Don't change a thing. I like it. lol

I do have to point out that although I think Amanos tanks look good, there are other aquascapers I much prefer. I think he can be quite samey. Now I'll get a kicking for slating people's god but thats my opinion.

This looks very fresh to me similar to Philipe Oliveira's latest offering which I quite like too. Not the same as his is more of a central design.

Don't post it on APC though or you'll get the pompous and opinionated telling you where you are going wrong and telling you that the small pebble on the right should be on the left as it is distracting to the eye, and that the substrate should be 2mm higher on the right to create a sense of.........it being 2mm higher

I personaly think you should get a scape you think looks good rather than one that pleases others. People talk about too symetrical but then why shouldn't it be. A river will have similar height banks each side and will probably have similar trees on each side with similar plants in the water. Is that not as close to symetry as you can get?

Sorry..............started ranting there.

Keep up the good work and hope the plants I sent are doing OK.

Andy
 
I do agree Andy, but to expand slightly on this idea of nature, Amano's "Nature" aquariums aren't based on a natural look from what I understand. Moreso, they are based on an idea for a landscape. The idea of rolling hills and rocky outcrops etc which is why they look man made I guess :)

I totally agree though, at the end of the day you have to go with what you like. You're the one who's going to be looking at it! But, if you want to go with a pigeon holed setup, whether "Nature", "Dutch" or "Jungle" (I'm sure theres more but I'm still learning!)
 

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