Angelfish intensines out?

[On_a_dishy]

If you ever need levamisole, look for eSHa-ndx in the UK

Thank you, @Essjay! That’s just saved me a small fortune - and I keep shrimps so it’s saved me the effort of re-homing them if I ever need to use it

 

[Navfish]

If you ever need levamisole, look for eSHa-ndx in the UK

I live in the US and now I can't seem to find any medication with levamisole!!!
Heres an update on how he looks. Can anyone else confirm if it’s callumus worms.

 

[On_a_dishy]

I’m not experienced with callumanus worms but the crazily expensive API General Cure contains fenbendazole (which would be effective against callumanus) and praziquantel. I have read different opinions of the effectiveness of how these 3 ingredients are metabolised, though - one worrying opinion is that they needed to be ingested and so would be useless in the powdery form if just added to the water, another was saying that the recommended dosing was underdosing and so the sachets wouldn’t be effective if used as per the API instructions… annoying as I’d just paid to get a box sent over to the UK! @Essjay will be able to help here. I’m not sure how we’d get fish to eat the fenbendazole…

The product you first mentioned, https://www.aquariumcoop.com/products/fritz-expel-p contains levamisole and I can see it on US websites so that could be bought … again, though, do the fish need to actually ingest it?

Someone will be along soon to help. @Colin_T is good at diagnosing from photos, too.

Sorry - not much help, I know.

 

[Essjay]

Most of the worm treatments are liquids which are dosed like other meds. The only one I've come across here in the UK is Kusuri Wormer Plus which is a powder and being intended to treat large tanks containing discus is tricky to measure out for smaller tanks. That's flubendazole.

 

[Unknownfuture]

I’m not experienced with callumanus worms but the crazily expensive API General Cure contains fenbendazole (which would be effective against callumanus) and praziquantel. I have read different opinions of the effectiveness of how these 3 ingredients are metabolised, though - one worrying opinion is that they needed to be ingested and so would be useless in the powdery form if just added to the water, another was saying that the recommended dosing was underdosing and so the sachets wouldn’t be effective if used as per the API instructions… annoying as I’d just paid to get a box sent over to the UK! @Essjay will be able to help here. I’m not sure how we’d get fish to eat the fenbendazole…

The product you first mentioned, https://www.aquariumcoop.com/products/fritz-expel-p contains levamisole and I can see it on US websites so that could be bought … again, though, do the fish need to actually ingest it?

Someone will be along soon to help. @Colin_T is good at diagnosing from photos, too.

Sorry - not much help, I know.

API General cure has metro and praziquantel not fenbendazole. Got an 850g in front of me. £200 delivered to the UK but priceless if you experience the likes of hexamita. Esha hexamita just doesn’t cut it.

 

[Essjay]

How did you get that through customs? Metro is prescription only here and it could have been confiscated if they'd known what it was.

 

[Unknownfuture]

How did you get that through customs? Metro is prescription only here and it could have been confiscated if they'd known what it was.

Oh I didn’t know - definitely. Had a load of focus turn up that banned as well ? Stocked for now anyway.
Guess some people need some education in evil antibiotics for fish at customs. This country is nuts. Takes business away from vets I guess. £200 or a few hundred to a clueless vet that will just prescribe when your pin is accepted that’s if the fish survives the journey as they would want to see it. As I said this country is nuts.

 

[Essjay]

The reason antibiotics are prescription only is to stop people mis-using them. My mother used to work as a doctor's receptionist and they would get patients asking to see the doctor as "they had a cold and wanted an antibiotic". If they could have bought one over the counter we'd have drug resistant bacteria worse than we already have.

 

[Unknownfuture]

The reason antibiotics are prescription only is to stop people mis-using them. My mother used to work as a doctor's receptionist and they would get patients asking to see the doctor as "they had a cold and wanted an antibiotic". If they could have bought one over the counter we'd have drug resistant bacteria worse than we already have.

Totally agree with you and society is in such decay you get that behaviour and thus the rule but the nearest vet is over 60 mile away that specialises in fish. I’ve encountered many diseases with fish and experienced hexamita and Esha hexamita isn’t an effective treatment of that pesky flagella especially in later stages. As long as your using it when you need to and not just Willy nilly and doing your research as the correct amount to medicate the food I do not see the harm. The rules are to stop abuse but then in turn many decent fish keepers fish die as they cannot in time get hold of the required medication. Catch 22 situation.

 

[On_a_dishy]

My mistake - yes - metro and praziquantel in General Cure.
@Unknownfuture, how did you medicate the food?

 

[Unknownfuture]

1 focus scoop of GC and then 1 scoop focus per 1 tablsespoon of frozen food. Or mass prepare and freeze it as you have to feed this I add garlic guard aswell to try and encourage more consumption.
Unfortunately if they are not eating it’s dosing the water usually after a day or 2 they start eating pending the correct diagnosis of something like hexamita. Then you can start the medicated food.

 

[Navfish]

I havent treated him yet as there was some indecision on what it may be. Howver, I will buy expel P as he has gotten more lethargic.


The area has now become more white looking but he is still eating. Should i try a epsom salt bath before fritz expel?

if yes, what would be the directions to giving him/her a salt bath?