angel fish (tropical )

[very confused]

have set up a 300 ltr tank -- ph 7 - well established plants ( 1 month old ) water conditioner added -- introduced 3cm angels ( 6 of ) after tank set running for one month -- and in the space of 3 days all died -- added fin rot medication as well as a general anti bacterial medication to no avail -- only the 4 snails and my algie eater are doing fine -- as well as the plants -- all fish were very active --then all went to one corner of the tank and stayed there until they died -- could some one please help as its frustrating to see them die and not be able to do anything about it - heater set at 27 degrees -- power filter isa 240 litre an hour one

 

[zull]

i had lost my first two angles , bad water conditions, not a good cycling fish(a newbie mistake) for they can be very picky about water conditions, check your ammonia, nitrites and nitrates, any of these being to high can stress out angels.

i have since bought a bigger tank and cycled it properly, my angles are doing great, no sign of stress, no more huddling on the bottom of the tank.

please, don't give up, they are great fish to keep.

 

[KnuckleHead]

Do you have a test kit? If you dont then definatly purchase one. Post your results here so we can better help you. Also how big is 300 liters compared to US gallons?

 

[Sye]

300L is almost 80 US Gallons

 

[Alien Anna]

It sounds a great tank but is it cycled? If you aren't sure of the answer to that question, check out my article in my sig and get back to us if you have any questions. Sorry about your angels.

 

[very confused]

thank you all for your help -- i thought i was doing the right thing when i total cleaned the tank and everything in it -- i thought if i had the plants up and running for a month before introducing the fish everything would be fine - apparently not - i will purchase a kit that will give me the ammonia levels -- would the snails have any affect on this problem i have -- all i ever worried about was the ph levels - and changing the water once a fortnight

 

[KnuckleHead]

Snails shouldnt have any negative effect unless they are carrying a disease. You definatly dont want to totally clean the tank. Doing so will send it into another cycle and there you are starting over from scratch again. Ph is very important as you thought but its more important to keep it stable then to try and adjust it. Also meds can be just as stressful on fish as the disease can be. Be sure you know what illness they have before medicating. One of the best things you can do is hang around this board and ask questions. Theres a ton of knowledgable folks here that are more than willing to aid in every way we can.

 

[fishdude]

I got one yesterday for my 30 gal. with a black neon, black molly, red wag platy, and a blue paradise gourami. I know my tank is overstocked. I'm thinkin of givin away the black molly who's very bossy. It looks awesome, The Angel anyway.

 

[Cian McLiam]

Hmm Agree with Anna, unless there is a source of ammonia, ie fish waste, uneaten food etc in the tank, there is nothing to start the bacteria culture growing. Ironically, what you need is high ammonia then high nitrite and then when it goes back to zero, your tank is healthy enough to add a few more fish. Unfortunately there are no shortcuts, unless you consider fishless cycling a shortcut, but the process is the same.
I did manage to bypass normal cycling with my third tank, I put in a few mountain minnows and as ammonia rose, added more and more filter media from my other tank filter so I never got a very high ammonia or nitrite spike, and could move in most of the rest of the fish in a few weeks.

Ken