Ammonia

[tetraqueen]

I never used Ammonia to start of my little tank I used Stability
new Tank Stabilization Sysem.

Is this just the same ?? It sorted the first tank out in a couple of weeks.

I am not sure why would you use Ammonia , what are the benfits or is 'Stability' just that?

 

[kris-b-]

I'm not sure what the stability thing is but ammonia is secreted by the fish in waste and through their gills. Using ammonia in a bottle is a replacement for the fish waste so that the fish do not have to be exposed to it.

If you read through the following thread you will see how ammonia is used....

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=113861

Hope this helps

 

[tetraqueen]

I'm not sure what the stability thing is but ammonia is secreted by the fish in waste and through their gills. Using ammonia in a bottle is a replacement for the fish waste so that the fish do not have to be exposed to it.

If you read through the following thread you will see how ammonia is used....

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=113861

Hope this helps

Yes thats where I got it in the first place from. I however wanted to know the benefits of this rather than use what I have in the one and only other time as my other tank was only new in April.

 

[annka5]

Impossible to compare when no idea what "stability" thing is. What do the details on the bottle say? That should tell you if its ammonia, ammonia with bacteria culture, or what.

 

[tetraqueen]

Impossible to compare when no idea what "stability" thing is. What do the details on the bottle say? That should tell you if its ammonia, ammonia with bacteria culture, or what.

Impossible to compare when no idea what "stability" thing is. What do the details on the bottle say? That should tell you if its ammonia, ammonia with bacteria culture, or what.

It doesn't The products name is Stability. No ingredients are on the bottle or I would not ask

 

[Bloo]

Is this it ?

"Stability by Seachem" ?

Stability™ will rapidly and safely establish the aquarium biofilter in freshwater and marine systems, thereby preventing the #1 cause of fish death: "new tank syndrome". Stability™ is formulated specifically for the aquarium and contains a synergistic blend of aerobic, anaerobic, and facultative bacteria which facilitate the breakdown of waste organics, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. Unlike competing products, the bacteria employed by Stability™ are non-sulfur fixing and will not produce toxic hydrogen sulfide. Stability™ is completely harmless to all aquatic organisms as well as aquatic plants, thus there is no danger of over use. Stability™ is the culmination of nearly a decade of research and development and represents the current state of the art in natural biological management.

Sizes: 100 mL, 250 mL, 500 mL

DIRECTIONS: Use 1 capful (5 mL) for each 40 L (10 gallons*) on the first day with a new aquarium. Then use 1 capful for each 80 L (20 gallons*) daily for 7 days. Fish and other aquatic species may be introduced at any time as long as dosage is maintained for 7 days. For optimum biofilter performance use 1 capful for each 40 L (10 gallons*) once a month or with each water change and whenever introducing new fish or whenever medicating an aquarium.

 

[tetraqueen]

Is this it ?

"Stability by Seachem" ?

Stability™ will rapidly and safely establish the aquarium biofilter in freshwater and marine systems, thereby preventing the #1 cause of fish death: "new tank syndrome". Stability™ is formulated specifically for the aquarium and contains a synergistic blend of aerobic, anaerobic, and facultative bacteria which facilitate the breakdown of waste organics, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. Unlike competing products, the bacteria employed by Stability™ are non-sulfur fixing and will not produce toxic hydrogen sulfide. Stability™ is completely harmless to all aquatic organisms as well as aquatic plants, thus there is no danger of over use. Stability™ is the culmination of nearly a decade of research and development and represents the current state of the art in natural biological management.

Sizes: 100 mL, 250 mL, 500 mL

DIRECTIONS: Use 1 capful (5 mL) for each 40 L (10 gallons*) on the first day with a new aquarium. Then use 1 capful for each 80 L (20 gallons*) daily for 7 days. Fish and other aquatic species may be introduced at any time as long as dosage is maintained for 7 days. For optimum biofilter performance use 1 capful for each 40 L (10 gallons*) once a month or with each water change and whenever introducing new fish or whenever medicating an aquarium.

Bloozoo
Happy you know it at last.

 

[Bloo]

Well I don't "know" it - I just googled it
So unfortunately I can give you no feedback on its use (or usefulness).

 

[tetraqueen]

Is this it ?

"Stability by Seachem" ?

Stability™ will rapidly and safely establish the aquarium biofilter in freshwater and marine systems, thereby preventing the #1 cause of fish death: "new tank syndrome". Stability™ is formulated specifically for the aquarium and contains a synergistic blend of aerobic, anaerobic, and facultative bacteria which facilitate the breakdown of waste organics, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. Unlike competing products, the bacteria employed by Stability™ are non-sulfur fixing and will not produce toxic hydrogen sulfide. Stability™ is completely harmless to all aquatic organisms as well as aquatic plants, thus there is no danger of over use. Stability™ is the culmination of nearly a decade of research and development and represents the current state of the art in natural biological management.

Sizes: 100 mL, 250 mL, 500 mL

DIRECTIONS: Use 1 capful (5 mL) for each 40 L (10 gallons*) on the first day with a new aquarium. Then use 1 capful for each 80 L (20 gallons*) daily for 7 days. Fish and other aquatic species may be introduced at any time as long as dosage is maintained for 7 days. For optimum biofilter performance use 1 capful for each 40 L (10 gallons*) once a month or with each water change and whenever introducing new fish or whenever medicating an aquarium.

Bloozoo
Happy you know it at last.

This was the original ?
I never used Ammonia to start of my little tank I used Stability
new Tank Stabilization Sysem.

Is this just the same ?? It sorted the first tank out in a couple of weeks.


They are not the same but are they to manage the same thing. O
Arhhhh I do not know how to ask.
What is best to use.


I am not sure why would you use Ammonia , what are the benfits or is 'Stability' just that?

 

[OohFeeshy]

The question is- Why buy a bottle of something that cost something silly like £3.99 for a small bottle that is in no way guarenteed to word as it is targeted at gullible people when you can buy a 99p bottle of ammonia that is guarenteed to work and lasts for almost all your tanks?

 

[Bloo]

That's a little harsh. Though I personally won't use it (and stick to ammonia) - I'm sure a huge company such as Seachem won't get away with making rubbish for years. And I'm even more convinced they won't spend thousands a year in developing / testing / marketing such "rubbish"
It's a very large and reputable company.

Here's some more info I found on the Seachem website :

Q: What is the temperature tolerance of the bacteria in Stability™?
A: The bacteria in Stability in the spore form (basically the preserved bacteria in the bottle) can live through freezing temperatures as long as the water is allowed to thaw naturally without the use of a heating element (if a heating element is used then the more drastic change in temp and pressure will kill the bacteria).

Once Stability is dosed to an aquarium (diluted in an aquarium), the bacteria convert to vegetative state and can handle temp as low as 42º F. Below 42º F the majority of bacteria will die but some will convert back to the spore state which can handle low temp/freezing (see above). Once the water thaws and warms naturally, they will convert back to vegetative and do what they are intended to do.

In the spore form the bacteria can tolerate temps between 180º - 200º F. In the vegetative state the bacteria can handle temps between 120º - 125º F(some have even existed in this state up to 140º F but is uncommon).

 

[rdd1952]

I've never used Stability but my experience with the "bacteria in a bottle" products is that they are pretty much useless. The purpose of ammonia is, as kris-b- said, to replace the ammonia that fish would produce so that you can build your backteria colony without subjecting your fish to harmful toxins. You can use Stability in conjunction with ammonia to do a fishless cycle and although I don't think the Stability wil speed it any, I don't think it will hinder or slow it either.

I hope do test some of the bacteria products after the first of the year. i am going to pick up a couple 10 gallon tanks to do fishless cycling using the different products so I can prove to myself that they either do or don't work.

 

[annka5]

it's definitely baceria based rather than ammonia based, as otherwise it would be perfectly possible to over-dose on it.
If you found it worked for you, then great. Personally, I would add it with ammonia to speed a fishless cycle if I wanted to use the stuff.
I don't see any reason why it shouldn't (in theory) work - live bacteria or "suspended animation" bacteria are in loads of other stuff - youghurt, dry yeast, etc. I know its a different type of bacteria but same principle? (am no biologist).

 

[tetraqueen]

it's definitely baceria based rather than ammonia based, as otherwise it would be perfectly possible to over-dose on it.
If you found it worked for you, then great. Personally, I would add it with ammonia to speed a fishless cycle if I wanted to use the stuff.
I don't see any reason why it shouldn't (in theory) work - live bacteria or "suspended animation" bacteria are in loads of other stuff - youghurt, dry yeast, etc. I know its a different type of bacteria but same principle? (am no biologist).

Well I am pleased that you all give your opinion.
Harsh may it be 'Gullible' is what we all can be especially when new.
I also think sometimes old fashioned methods work better.
Honesty is best policy .

I will not be offended and please I am thankful for your explanations.

 

[dgwebster]

The bottles all claim things etc. However, I did just see this on on:

Interpet 14 Filter Start:

Powerful biological filter starter containing a guaranteed pure culture of safe, effective bacteria, treats 500 litres (110 gals).