African Dwarf Frogs With Betta

[lilacamy931]

Albino something frogs (stand corrected African Dwarf Frog)! I keep reading these with bettas, just have a couple of q's.

What are they like, fun to watch, interactive, will never come near you (only ask so can be aware ).

Will they jump out the tank like a betta might?

Understnad they like bloodworm, frozen ok and what other foods do they like?

Very silly question (sorry) when see in the LFS they are in a complete tank of water, do they not need land to rest on and are they not oxygen breathers?

Please tell me anything about them

 

[Jonty]

If they are albino they are African CLAWED Frogs, which grow very large and eat fish.

You want African DWARF Frogs. They can be disinguished by having webbed hands and feet, and are smaller. They are never albino.

To answer your other q's, they are more active on their own but should be ok with a betta. They are fun to watch, espicially when eating. NO, they don't need access to land as they are fully aquatic. The tank must to less than 12" tall, though, as they breath from the surface. Some tall plants can give lazy ones opportunity to rest and not swim too high. They like bloodworm as a staple, but may accept frog pellets and other meaty frozen foods.

 

[saltynay]

Albino something frogs! I keep reading these with bettas, just have a couple of q's. As said albino's are dangerous predators

What are they like, fun to watch, interactive, will never come near you (only ask so can be aware ). Fun to watch and very interesting they go in to states of supreme relaxation a lot and in a community tank mainly active once tank lights are off, they don't like vibrations but due to their poor eyesight you can easily tickle them if you sneak into the room, they grow more interactive as they become confident

Will they jump out the tank like a betta might? Yes it is a possibility they will jump if given a platform near the surface to spring from like the top of the filter, mine haven't as of yet though in an open top tank

Understnad they like bloodworm, frozen ok and what other foods do they like? bloodworm in any condition is good for them and should be staple (you can tempt them to be more active during the day by feeding them then), high protein catfish pellets and small shrimp in a poorly planted tank will be on the menu.

Very silly question (sorry) when see in the LFS they are in a complete tank of water, do they not need land to rest on and are they not oxygen breathers? Fully aquatic if they dry out they die
Please tell me anything about them

 

[lilacamy931]

many thanks guys, blushing as keep seeing ADF and for some unknown reason thought it meant albino!! I have seen the combination of adf with bettas and thought may be a good idea. I will have a rethink as the tank is 12 inches tall though I only fill to about 10 inches.

I was just thinking of an addition to the 10 gallon tank with Calcifer, I am not desperate to but thought it may give something of more interest to him, obviously with more plants as well!

A worthwhile pet addition then?

Thank you for answering my questions I really knew nothing about them. Many thanks

 

[lilacamy931]

Oh also, obviously it will be trial and error whether Calcifer likes him and will return the frog if does not work out. Will I likely have problems feeding the frog bloodworm to the frog with Calcifer about? Hope to be able to distract while put some bloodworm at the bottom with a turkey baster perhaps.

Have found some good articles now and read up more, they sound pretty interesting!

 

[saltynay]

Strictly speaking the tank depth should be under 16" from what I have read hence why we say 12" as it is the safer rule so you shouldn't need to lower the water level. They are a very worthwhile addition, when I feed them I feed at midday when the lights turn off and drop a couple of catfish pellets in and at night 10 minutes before tank lights turn off I defrost the bloodworm with plenty of water then pour it all around the tank so that it is evenly spread on the bottom which allows the shrimp, betta, endlers, ADfs and cory's to get their fair share.

 

[ellena]

I feed mine with a pipette. I have found it better to defrost the edge of a cube and pull of whole worms as longer ones are easier to dangle in front of the frogs. (rather than slice a bit off the cube-you end up with bits of worms that way)
I think they're fun to watch although I only have 2 (wanted to see how betta would react first) so they aren't as active as they maybe could be. I plan to get 2 more, but not until the cycle has settled (which could be never )

 

[lilacamy931]

I was planning on only having one in the 10gallon with the betta to start with, would I need to have a pair eventually for them to be happier? I have rung many LFS local and no one seems to have them! Will have to keep searching.

 

[saltynay]

It wouldn't surprise me if most LFS can't tell the difference you will need to call up and ask if they have any aquatic frogs then go ID yourself. They are fine solo or in groups in a 10 gallon you could have 4 quite happily, they get a little more confident in larger groups as with any animal but the difference is negligible compared to their comfortability in the surroundings through adequate planting, hiding spaces and time in the tank.

 

[lilacamy931]

thanks saltynay!

 

[lilacamy931]

well armed with the latin name, pictures, etc, will hope to get to some stores this weekend, wish me luck

 

[Forestpisces]

Good luck

 

[lilacamy931]

Well it seems I have found a source that has the ADFs which will be going to look and hopefully pick one up on Saturday. We are going armed with pictures,he also mentioned the albino ones in the same sentence so hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. least we can compare the apparent dwarfs to the albinos, if they look the same it is a no go! I know to look for claws though not always apparent and they are not albinos and the eyes. One has on top of head and ones are more bulbous (dont worry have the comparison photos) anything else to look for?

 

[Inchworm]

Hi lilacamy931

Just look carefully at their "hands." If they are the larger ACFs it will look like they have long, individual, fingers. The "hands" of an ADF are small and look more like rounded mittens.

The males will sing to you when they are mature. It's a very nice thing to hear.

 

[lilacamy931]

I have heard about this singing and found a youtube link on here, it sounds very sweet! Thanks for that inchworm

I was planning on adding only one in the 10g with just Calcifer to see how they get on, if good may go back and get a second