Yeah, I agree, I'm going to leave my water alone, 8 ph is fine with me.... is 8.5 a little to high? I can't really tell them apart.....from my ph kits test results. but it is between that area. I do have friends that live in the same city that I do and they use tap water with the same ph, their fishes are find. Yeah i'm not worrying about breeding, I just want my fishes to be happy and live as long as they possbily can.