A Question Of Chlorine

[orandas]

hmmm on reflection....

our current home(we move alot), we don't have a watertank, the hot water runs on a combi-boiler, so the mains water gets heated as and when required, which suggests that it shud be ok, to take hot water from the hot water tap?!

guess it wud be different if u had a water tank, which gets heated and stored, until it runs out,then re-heat... stored water/stagnant water not good for aquariums??!!

so depending on ure home water set-up that shud be it?!

Need plummers advise.....

 

[Vail3r]

I was told never to use the hot tap water also.

i have furr/scales in my kettle(even after de-scaling it a couple of times-never completely removes it.), and i've always used kettle boiled water, and no matter how i try, can't avoid tiny bits of scale getting into the tank.

If i can use the hot tap water instead, that would solve the kettle scale part.

Abit confused which is correct now.

Funny....but back in my Uni days, met some foreign students in student digs etc, remembered how this foreign student made me hot chocolate using hot tap water, i asked him why...he said the hot choc instructions says hot water....abit of a giggle

I have been using the hot tap since I started and never had any problems! If it really does contain more copper then surely it would only really affect shrimps/snails etc anyway?

 

[Mowbz]

To help clear up a few bits on posts above;

If your water is gravity fed system from an immersion heater tank (airing cupboard?) your water is being heated most likely, by a huge copper element. What effect this has on a tank if any, i beleive is untested.

If your water is supplied by a COMBI boiler (Heating AND mains hot water supply) then its highly unlikely your water will come into contact with copper here.

What you are forgetting however is that ALL of the water in your house is most likely going through COPPER pipes. Only in the last few years have nickel plated steel pipes been available, and they are so expensive they are rarely used unless the pipe is going to be visible (radiater pipes running at skirting level etc), and only in new build houses.

I also noticed someone above said that Prime "Removes ammonia" which isnt strictly true, i think it simply converts it to "less harmful" ammonium.

 

[raptorrex]

lets clear this up totally.
if you use a water conditioner, good quality. it does not matter where you get your water from.(within reason. atomic cooling ponds may not be a good idea) all dangerous metals will be bound. no matrer what system your house has.
this is not my thoughts. its a matter of fact. indeed its the only reason i use a conditioner at all. water changes of 25% or less, do not need dechlorination.

a lot of the "advice" (lol) offered by many LFS. goes back a long time. not using water water from the house system is one of them. similar bull poop is talked about salt and carbon.
however if you live in the USA. your water tanks are made of lined steel. it wont affect your fish (as you use a water conditioner) but its not too good for humans. that's why most of the rest of the, developed, world uses copper.

 

[orandas]

To help clear up a few bits on posts above;

If your water is gravity fed system from an immersion heater tank (airing cupboard?) your water is being heated most likely, by a huge copper element. What effect this has on a tank if any, i beleive is untested.

If your water is supplied by a COMBI boiler (Heating AND mains hot water supply) then its highly unlikely your water will come into contact with copper here.

What you are forgetting however is that ALL of the water in your house is most likely going through COPPER pipes. Only in the last few years have nickel plated steel pipes been available, and they are so expensive they are rarely used unless the pipe is going to be visible (radiater pipes running at skirting level etc), and only in new build houses.

I also noticed someone above said that Prime "Removes ammonia" which isnt strictly true, i think it simply converts it to "less harmful" ammonium.

well thats cleared it up abit for me....
my combi-boiler suggests unlikely copper.
But the house was built around 70s suggest mains copper pipes
In which case the coppers in both my cold&hot tap water....copper aside from being a metal, is harmful because....?

Agree prime converts/neutralises and NOT remove

I know alot of people raves about prime, but i recently used it for the first time - both the liquid & the powder form - i don't get the hype.....it neither protected my fish from the ammonia, even when i x5 dose it (as per the instructions), and it didn't last a long time, suppose to last 25,000 gallons of water....nupe.....moving on. Then tried amquel+ slightly better....again not continuing with it.

I was thinking of trying Sodium Thiosulphate next, but if copper/metal is present, that defeats trying ST as the sole dechlorinator, since dechlorinators like stress coat actually removes metals aswell???

ps i don't have chloramine in my tap water, hence thinking of ST as the sole dechlorinator

 

[orandas]

your water tanks are made of lined steel. it wont affect your fish (as you use a water conditioner) but its not too good for humans.

eh? my pots & pans are stainless steel, cos i thought the tefal& non-stick/aluminium pans are bad.

copper pots&pans are way expensive.