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A place 4 my questions & ponderings as I build a 34 Gallons (127L) tank

Not sure if you appreciate just how small CPDs are. An adult female endler is more the twice the length of an adult CPD. IMO none of those fish are suitable tankmates for CPD - sorry.

If op gets all male endlers, that is fine as that’s what I had with my CPDs.
Bonus is, all male endlers won’t breed!

The males endlers are smaller than the females endlers, roughly about 20-25mm, CPDs about 20mm.

Absolutely no problem with male endlers and CPDs in my experience.
 
If op gets all male endlers, that is fine as that’s what I had with my CPDs.
Bonus is, all male endlers won’t breed!

The males endlers are smaller than the females endlers, roughly about 20-25mm, CPDs about 20mm.

Absolutely no problem with male endlers and CPDs in my experience.
That sounds great. The CPD is very beautiful & male Endlers are prettier.
 
Oh, something I forgot to mention- substrate syphoning with this sand vs Argos sand... this sand is pretty heavy, comparatively. When I'm syphon cleaning it, even if some goes into the tube bit (what is that called? The bell jar, head, something?) pausing the flow lets it fall back down again, it rarely goes all the way through and into the bucket unless I'm really careless. I think the play sand is smaller and lighter and easier to suck up, but I've never used it so might be wrong! @FishBearer9845 said she has the playsand, how do you find it for substrate cleaning, @FishBearer9845?

On the other hand, even if you sucked up loads, you can get it from the bucket and put it back, and it's also cheap to replace :)

@mbsqw1d got some recently! What do you think? I wonder also since they need a certain school size and they're relatively large whether they'd even be possible in a 34 gallon tank, especially with so many different fish. @Russjw also has odessas

I'm so sorry, it sounds so rough! I've just gone through a similar stretch. Losing fish to worms, a month of medicating, then finding out my new plants were contaminated with pesticides once my shrimp began dying off, so having to rush to set up a clean tank for the rest of the colony and still hoping that enough survive to repopulate. Couldn't do anything fun with the tanks for the month of treating them, and it was a lot of work and sadness, making the tanks feel like a chore and a lost cause, you know? Spates of illness or problems like that are awful, but they do pass. I wanted to give up the hobby and shut down the tanks at one point, but now I'm out the other side for the most part, I'm loving it again and the fish are well, so it's enjoyable and not a chore anymore. Why not make a thread and work out a plan of action with some help and ask any questions you have? It's what the forum is for, and it helps so much to vent and get advice from other hobbyists rather than doing it all alone:friends:

But even if you don't want to do that, I'm glad you got it off your chest now, sending cyber hugs if wanted!
Thanks, that's exactly what it's been like!
Shut ' em down....thinking who at LFS will take what, etc...it's just been so hard keeping track of plants and shrimp and salt and water everywhere and gravel boiling and cannon fire outside my window late at night.

Hug accepted.
 
Thanks, that's exactly what it's been like!
Shut ' em down....thinking who at LFS will take what, etc...it's just been so hard keeping track of plants and shrimp and salt and water everywhere and gravel boiling and cannon fire outside my window late at night.

Hug accepted.
More hugs! At least you know you're not alone now. You're doing the best you can, and it's a lot to keep track of. Ride it out. Don't make a decision to shut it all down while you're going through a rough patch. If you still want to stop or reduce the number of tanks when things are well, then that's a different matter. But doing it when it's an emotional decision because things outside of your control are tough would lead to regrets.

I hope it all settles down for you soon, but we're here either way!

Wait a minute... cannon fire??
 
More hugs! At least you know you're not alone now. You're doing the best you can, and it's a lot to keep track of. Ride it out. Don't make a decision to shut it all down while you're going through a rough patch. If you still want to stop or reduce the number of tanks when things are well, then that's a different matter. But doing it when it's an emotional decision because things outside of your control are tough would lead to regrets.

I hope it all settles down for you soon, but we're here either way!

Wait a minute... cannon fire??

Naw, just so much drama. It seems like I just want things to go as planned. I've been slowly downsizing and am ready to have my tanks set up and relax, right?
What I won't be doing until things settle is get more fish.

Me: "One clump of frogbit, please."
LFS guy: Rolls eyes, "Again?"
 
Filter option: Eheim Aquaball 130 or Eheim Pickup 160 will both fit at 20cm height - tank is 30cm height. @Ch4rlie recommended the Fluval C3 but I can't find an Irish stockist.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00FF5RK5I/?tag=

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0038HMRM6/?tag=

I like the Eheim Aquaball 130 as it has 3 different sections for you to keep different medias.
You can change the media if you want.

You can clean each section separately on different weeks to prevent losing too much beneficial bacteria if you were to clean the whole piece at one time.

Another advantage of Aquaball 130 over Pickup 160 is the the water is sucked from all the 3 different sections instead of just from the bottom.

You are right that internal filter is quieter than all other filters.

By the way, you may need two of this filter instead of just one for your 36 inches tank.



 
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I like the Eheim Aquaball 130 as it has 3 different sections for you to keep different medias.
You can change the media if you want.

You can clean each section separately on different weeks to prevent losing too much beneficial bacteria if you were to clean the whole piece at one time.

Another advantage of Aquaball 130 over Pickup 160 is the the water is sucked from all the 3 different sections instead of just from the bottom.

You are right that internal filter is quieter than all other filters.

By the way, you may need two of this filter instead of just one for your 36 inches tank.



Thanks for the recommendation. It didn't even occur to me that I'd need two. Could I have two but short? Luke use two compartments not 3? Just concerned that will take up lots of space :/
 
Just looking at Celestial Pearl Danio & SF says they are ok in low temps. Taking on concerns by @seangee maybe the CPDs are an option for a species only 58L/16G cooler temp tank?
 
Thanks for the recommendation. It didn't even occur to me that I'd need two. Could I have two but short? Luke use two compartments not 3? Just concerned that will take up lots of space :/

If you reduce to two compartments (Aquaball 60), it might be barely enough since your tank is about 120 liter.
Aquaball 60 is suitable for tank of 60liters. Two Aquaball 60 probably can cover 120 liters(just my opinion).
It will be better to have two Aquaball 130 or one Aquaball 60 and one 130. You can put one on the left and one on the right for more effective filtrations.
 
And is that because the tank is so long? It's the same height and length as @seangee has though mine is 18" depth and not 12".
 
Looking at Lajos' second video I would NOT put substrat pro (the little balls) in an Aquaball. The Aquaball is designed to have sponges in the baskets. Substart pro in a slitted basket will get very dirty; the Biopower range does use substrat pro but in solid baskets and the water has to pass through a sponge before it reaches the substrat pro and the sponge removes most of the debris. I have a Biopower in my big tank. I was so fed up with trying to keep the substrat pro clean that I've replaced it with sponge.
 
Looking at Lajos' second video I would NOT put substrat pro (the little balls) in an Aquaball. The Aquaball is designed to have sponges in the baskets. Substart pro in a slitted basket will get very dirty; the Biopower range does use substrat pro but in solid baskets and the water has to pass through a sponge before it reaches the substrat pro and the sponge removes most of the debris. I have a Biopower in my big tank. I was so fed up with trying to keep the substrat pro clean that I've replaced it with sponge.
Oh with Aquaball I was hoping to only use sponge and maybe filter floss of needed. Is that ok?
 
Yes that's perfect. The big baskets all come with sponge. They make various media for the small basket right under the pump - sponge, filter floss and a carbon sponge. If you want to use filter floss, it's cheaper to buy a length from a roll and cut it to shape.


I was just afraid you'd watch that video and get substrat pro to replace a sponge ;)
 
I think I'll order today from Swell. Getting the Aquaball 130 & Aquaball 60 as recommended by @Lajos_Detari but using sponge & filter floss only. If I feel the two filters are too much even with flow adjusted I can use the the Aquaball 60 in my 58L tank. I don't like that filter anyway that came with the Ciano 60 tank.

Only question is if the Limpopo Black Sand 20kg will be enough for a tank of 36" length x 18" width?? Any ideas @AdoraBelle Dearheart and @seangee as you both have that sand?
 
I think I'll order today from Swell. Getting the Aquaball 130 & Aquaball 60 as recommended by @Lajos_Detari but using sponge & filter floss only. If I feel the two filters are too much even with flow adjusted I can use the the Aquaball 60 in my 58L tank. I don't like that filter anyway that came with the Ciano 60 tank.

Only question is if the Limpopo Black Sand 20kg will be enough for a tank of 36" length x 18" width?? Any ideas @AdoraBelle Dearheart and @seangee as you both have that sand?
I'm pretty sure 20kgs will be plenty. You don't want the sand to be any deeper than two inches, and my 20kg bag was enough to do the two 15 gallons with some left over, even with it quite deep. Your tank is much longer, so I suppose there's a chance you might want more, but I doubt it. I'd buy the 20 KG bag and add it, measure the depth, and if it's an inch or less you could always get another small bag. I just doubt you'll need to. I know the delay would be frustrating though when you're excited to get going!
 

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