A 7 Gallon Tank With 4 Plants And 1 Male Betta ...

[nitro7]

come on you guys,now,now we are here to try and help .not to get into a argument

 

[modaz]

blimey, its hitting off i see right my opinion is a betta in a tank should have more than 1G on a perm basis and 2 weeks in this small area without a water change is careless and lazy.
I would never leave a betta in a filterless tank without a 100% every 3 days, 50% is acceptable but 100% is better and does not harm them at all as long as they are acclimatized back into their new water correctly, i 100% water change hundred+ of adults and fry every 3 days and if i leave it more than 5 days i end up with problems, all these tanks have no filters, the filtered ones have a 80% water change every 2 weeks.

 

[Ficious]

art deco nano filter??? to be honest, hardly do water changes with my 1.5 cube because those art decos are crazy good.

 

[Rufuss]

Efficiency folks!

Example
You clean the tank every 3 days.
I clean the tank every 2 weeks.
End result is the same.

My way is not the best way, but its the efficient way.

 

[beginner]

THANKS for all your replies. It is because of the advice of members like you all that we novices can venture into keeping fishes without making too many mistakes (some we surely would make). GRATEFUL THANKS

 

[azulfire24]

yarr..... well as for my opinon my 3 , 10 gals get a 25 weekly and 100 bout every 2 months, i do have a heated unfiltered 1 gal with 1 beta at work, and he gets water changed monday wensday and fri...... baaa, as for a betta living 6 years?? i dunnno, i ve heard up to 5 but realy they life span is only 3 to 4.... me thinks someone was getting a little carried away?? just a tad?

 

[Phoenixbaby]

Efficiency folks!

Example
You clean the tank every 3 days.
I clean the tank every 2 weeks.
End result is the same.

My way is not the best way, but its the efficient way.

No the end result is not the same, and I really suggest that you remove the pole from ur ####

Leaving a fish, any fish in its own filth for 2 weeks without a filter and no water changes is just pure laziness. It takes no more than half an hour maximum to do a water change

If I left my 7gallon 2 weeks before I did a water change the ammonia levels would be high, even though I have a filter, there is only so much ammonia the bacteria can consume in a day, so Im sorry but your ammonia readings must have been off the scale

Regardless of what you think you know, do not give advice like that to a newbie, just because you like to poison ur fish, doesnt mean the newbie wants to

 

[Neon.Tetra]

Efficiency folks!

Example
You clean the tank every 3 days.
I clean the tank every 2 weeks.
End result is the same.

My way is not the best way, but its the efficient way.

No the end result is not the same, and I really suggest that you remove the pole from ur ####

lol.

 

[ReMz]

Efficiency folks!

Example
You clean the tank every 3 days.
I clean the tank every 2 weeks.
End result is the same.

My way is not the best way, but its the efficient way.

There are two variables to consider and you are picking the one that supports your side the most.

Effectiveness sir!

You may be maximizing your efficiency by being lazy and letting chemical levels rise over time, but you are not being effective at your task. I can be efficient too driving a bus and only picking up half the people on the bus route to save time.... but I wouldn't be very effective at my task would I?

One 50% water change a week does not have the same result as one 100% water change every two weeks. Following your same logic you could try to justify one 100% water change every 3 weeks, or every month. The end result is not the same because you are letting ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate levels reach higher levels before removing them.

Now I'm certainly not a stickler when it comes water changes. On very few occasions, my tanks might go for a couple weeks if I am really busy. I also am not one of the "excessive" people on this forum when it comes to betta care...... but you simply are not providing good advice and have entirely missed the point of water changes.

No where did I try to be demeaning or rude, I was being very honest and correcting you. If you disagree, I would appreciate it if you made a counter-argument validating your points instead of being "snappy".

 

[Honeythorn]

yarr..... well as for my opinon my 3 , 10 gals get a 25 weekly and 100 bout every 2 months, i do have a heated unfiltered 1 gal with 1 beta at work, and he gets water changed monday wensday and fri...... baaa, as for a betta living 6 years?? i dunnno, i ve heard up to 5 but realy they life span is only 3 to 4.... me thinks someone was getting a little carried away?? just a tad?

I read a report of bettas in labs living to around 9 years actually. It didn't state tank size or regime however.

 

[JimShorts]

Efficiency folks!

Example
You clean the tank every 3 days.
I clean the tank every 2 weeks.
End result is the same.

My way is not the best way, but its the efficient way.

Uh, how to I put this politely...

You're completely wrong.

For simplicity, let's say my fish produces 5g of waste per day.

If I remove 10% of the waste every day, the maximum amount of waste in the tank at any given time will be 45g, with virtually no variance from day-to-day.

If I remove 25% of the waste every three days, the maximum amount of waste in the tank at any given time will be 55g.

If I remove 100% of the waste every two weeks, the maximum amount of waste in the tank at any given time will be 70g.

It's a function of both how much water you remove and how often. By performing smaller water changes more frequently, there will be less of a likelyhood of the waste building up to toxic levels, and your fish are going to have a much more consistant living environment. You are much better off (and so are your fish) if you perform small water changes frequently rather than one big water change every couple of weeks.

 

[Rufuss]

My method is just as effective.
Their alive aren't they?
There healthy, active, and happy.

You can't deny the truth, accept it.

 

[Phoenixbaby]

My method is just as effective.
Their alive aren't they?
There healthy, active, and happy.

You can't deny the truth, accept it.

You mate, are very jumped up and there is no need to be rude with people like you are

Jim Shorts is very correct in what he has said, he wasnt rude to you either and look how you have responded

You are poisoning your fish whether you choose to beleive it or not

And we dont have to "accept it" thats the beauty of being individual and thinking for ourselves

 

[ReMz]

Efficiency folks!

Example
You clean the tank every 3 days.
I clean the tank every 2 weeks.
End result is the same.

My way is not the best way, but its the efficient way.

Uh, how to I put this politely...

You're completely wrong.

For simplicity, let's say my fish produces 5g of waste per day.

If I remove 10% of the waste every day, the maximum amount of waste in the tank at any given time will be 45g, with virtually no variance from day-to-day.

If I remove 25% of the waste every three days, the maximum amount of waste in the tank at any given time will be 55g.

If I remove 100% of the waste every two weeks, the maximum amount of waste in the tank at any given time will be 70g.

It's a function of both how much water you remove and how often. By performing smaller water changes more frequently, there will be less of a likelyhood of the waste building up to toxic levels, and your fish are going to have a much more consistant living environment. You are much better off (and so are your fish) if you perform small water changes frequently rather than one big water change every couple of weeks.

thank you for exemplifying my point

My method is just as effective.
Their alive aren't they?
There healthy, active, and happy.

You can't deny the truth, accept it.

thank you for proving your utter lack of reasoning and logic. you either don't understand irrefutable facts, or you are too stupid to understand them. I pick the latter

and again... you've missed the ARGUMENT. i'm not going to restate your obvious attempted manipulation of the topic... this is done and over. I just wanted the last word because stupid people that think they are smart piss me off more than anything.

have fun around these forums with your attitude