30 Gallon Set-up

most species of clowns will work except maroon clowns. If you get a six line get glass canopies cause they are jumpers.

My favorite nano fish:
clowns
six line wrasse
gobies
firefish
cardinals
chromis
 
Here's the thing when it comes to snails and clean up crew... You're coming from a freshwater world where nuisance plants are pretty much a couple varieties of algae that are really only eaten by a couple species of algae-eating fish (ottos, plecs, siamese, etc). In the marine "nuisance" world you have green algae, brown algae, hair algae, brown slime, red slime, green slime, and the list goes on. There is a BOUNTY of differing types of nuisance growth in a marine tank and there is no single catch-all for helping you with all of it. Hermits do great on diatomaceous algae, some green algaes, and uneaten food. They won't touch hair algae, or various versions of slime algae (usually cyanobacteria), nor will they help clean your glass. Some snails eat hair algae, some dont. Some snails eat cyanobacteria, some dont. And so-on and so forth.

The general rule of thumb for CC (cleanup crew) is 1 per gallon. In my 45 for example I have the following:
10 blue legs
4 red legs
6 mexican turbo snails
2 nassarius snails
8 cerith snails
1 emerald crab
6 astrea snails
2 strange un-IDed snails
1 lettuce nudibranch

See the variety? They each do a specific job, and without one of the guys on that list, I might be hard-pressed to stay ahead of some nuisance critters. Of note, the ONLY critter I've found amongst that list that eats cyanobacteria are cerith snails. Variety is the spice of life when it comes to CC
 
Ok, thanks everyone... I've decided to take the plunge and go in and start marine. I've definately decided on a pair of clowns (whatever the lfs have in stock) what is the average price near you for a clown of any sort? also what other fish do you think i can fit in there with them?

Ok, so snails are a nescessity, i can live with that. Aslong as my fish are happy in the water i keep i am happy.

Bret
 
I paid about £12 for a true perc, although if you can find a confirmed pair then you might end up paying a fair bit more per fish.
 
Ive seen £15 on the tanks, not sure what it was for single or pair or true or false. Definately a percula though. Im going to get some reading up done on a few fish and see what my lfs hsa in stock when i pop in for a "visit"

Bret
 
My Ocellaris clowns were $30 US for the pair :) Prices might not compare on the other side of the "pond" though :fun:
 
I've seen posted elsewhere on here that some of the UK rock pool dwellers (clean up crew members) are safe to use in a trop marine tank.

Since you're in Lowestoft it might be worth seeing if you can use anything you might catch locally yourself? Could be a cheap alternative. :good:

I've also seen reference to using NSW - natural sea water. Again, I've no idea what water quality is like in your area but it might be another point worth exploring?
 
Hmmm... not sure. Would take ages to get the water though. And whenever i look in rockpools, theres nothing there :(

Bret

Oh by the way, where are you located bobf
 
Hmmm... not sure. Would take ages to get the water though. And whenever i look in rockpools, theres nothing there :(

Bret

Oh by the way, where are you located bobf


Near Bolton as it happens... beaches aint too hot here either!

On the rock pools by the way, you gotta lift a few rocks and get in there amongst it before you'll find anything.

Whether it's a good idea or not is for others to answer - fraid I'm not of the salty pursuasion myself (yet!).
 
Ooh, have you been to lowestoft? Whenever i lift rocks it all stirs up and you cant see anythin... and im not sticking my hand nywhere dodgy :p

Bret
 
I would go for live rock if I were you, enough to filter the aquarium. LR ist cheap but neither is a good canister filter. Plus if you decide you ever want to add corals later on, if you have the LR you can. :)
 
Be careful when collecting clean-up crew from tide pools. The reason why the majority of the creatures are there is because they live in the inter-tidal zone (naturally), hence do not live submerged 24/7. This means youll probably find a snail or a dozen getting out of your tank, down the cuboard, and across your carpet. :crazy: Ive seen crabs caught in the tide pools escape before, and they met their untimely end. :/
 
Well im not doing a marine tank anymore... Stupid landlord :p Freshwater fish tanks only he says :(

Bret
 

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