3 death fish, 1 ill, and 2 aparently OK??

[Tokis-Phoenix]

No, i wouldn't use the Malachite green as it isn't a very safe med to use and should only be used realy by more experienced fish keepers if at all- never used salt to cure fungus myself but i have heard you can with fish(ones that that aern't intolerant of it that is) but personally i would go for "Anti fungus" by Interpet but i am not sure on what is available for you where you live as far as other meds go.
I believe there are some articles on the forum about using the right amounts of salt.

Its not just about waiting to get new fish when your current fish are cured, you should wait until your tank has finished cycling and also wait at least 1 to 2 weeks after your fish have been cured to make sure all traces of the desease are gone even if it does cycle before hand (although i doubt it will)- this should also apply to any situation you are in.
I would suggest do a 30 to 40% water once every day or 2 repeatedly for the next fortnight(2weeks).

 

[shuhu]

alright, thanks...

I'll ask about the "Anti fungus", the shop were I get the fish it's a chain pet store that imports stuff from the USA and other places so yes, it's very possible that they have that or if not, they might have another imported brand.

I've checked before that apparently the Mollies don't mind having salt on their water so I'll keepon doing that. Also, I just fed them, they stayed mostly at the bottom, but when they saw the flakes dropping they ate most of it they did it slowly but I hope it's a good sign. I'll keep my fingers crossed

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Salt and mollys aern't very nesarsary and they can live happily/healthily without it but it is up to you; using salt in the tank will prevent you from putting any catfish/scaleless fish in the tank like plecs(although these wouldn't be suitable for a 10gal anyway) and corys as they are intolerant of it and it will make them ill and can/will even kill them.
Make sure you moniter levels of salt very carefully in the water as it can be easy to overdose on it and then it won't even be ok for the mollys; never used salt in my tanks so i couldn't realy advise you on the recommended dosage but i suggest you look it up just to make you are doing the right amounts otherwise you could be doing them harm.

My only other advise would to make sure you dechlorinate the water in the tank with dechlorinator(also known as water conditioner) as well as water going in to replace water thrown out from water changes.
By using the water quality testing kit/s they will also give you an idea at what stage your tank is cycling at and when to do water changes and roughly how much; when your tank is cycled most most people do a 30% water change once a week and clean the filter out once a fortnight(in the method i described in an earlier post)- i suggest you buy a thing called a gravel vac or syphon as this will easily clean your gravel/sand at the bottom of the tank which is nesarsary to do in order to keep the tank clean.

Good luck with the tank and i hope you have better success with it in keeping fish in the near future

 

[shuhu]

thanks I already have a syphon, I wouldn't know what to without it and yes I use a dechlorinator with anti-stress (maybe it's the same thing) and I've been doing the water changes of about 20% but every 2 weeks (mainly at my mom's tank, the other one I keep... which btw is doing amazingly) but I'll follow your advise.

About the salt, I was planning (if everything goes ok) to use the salt just to help my 2 little guys, but when everything goes back to normal and the cycle is finished I will have my 2 Plecos and will stop using the salt, maybe like a week or 2 before getting them, that way, with all the daily water changes and the evaporated water there will be almost no salt at my tank, right?? what do you think??

Good news: One of my Mollies is doing much better, the cotton stuff it's almost gone from its tail and its swimming more B) the other one looks a bit better but it's still weak and has the cotton stuff, a little bit less than yesterday but it's still there.

 

[pica_nuttalli]

mollies are reportedly hardier with a small amount of salt in their water; so long as you stop using salt and perform a bunch of water changes before getting the plecos, i'd think that'd be ok. salt doesn't evaporate out of a tank, so evaporation results in a higher salt concentration. only add salted water during a water change.

if you can wait long enough to get your tank healthy to purchase plecos, why not wait and put them in when you've got the 40g. please note, a common pleco will grow too big for a 40g. an adult common pleco needs a minimum 55g. but i think 2 bristlenose plecs could be happy in a 29 or 40.

buena suerte!

 

[shuhu]

mollies are reportedly hardier with a small amount of salt in their water; so long as you stop using salt and perform a bunch of water changes before getting the plecos, i'd think that'd be ok. salt doesn't evaporate out of a tank, so evaporation results in a higher salt concentration. only add salted water during a water change.

if you can wait long enough to get your tank healthy to purchase plecos, why not wait and put them in when you've got the 40g. please note, a common pleco will grow too big for a 40g. an adult common pleco needs a minimum 55g. but i think 2 bristlenose plecs could be happy in a 29 or 40.

buena suerte!

ohhh, I didn't know salt did not evaporated along with the water, I have only add it after changing water anyway.

I thought Common Plecos grow up to 12" which is like 30cm, thats why I thought a 40G tank (122 x 33 x 41 cm) would be enough, I guess that leaves the 29Gal out of the picture heheheh... thanks for telling me that, now I will have to save some more money to get a bigger tank then

I have another doubt, should I take the stone and the driftwood out of the tank and clean them or boil them again during this stage?? I just noticed something like the cotton stuff attached to them, it is only noticeable while looking very closely so it's not that much but I'm a bit concerned, I know it's not algae cause it looks white like what my mollies have on their tails.

I was plannig on getting some plastic plants and some death corals I have , but I don't know if I should wait until the cycle is finish or until my fish are ok, or does it not matter at all???

 

[shuhu]

Hey, my fish are perfectly fine now, no cotton stuff and they are swimming fast and eating vigorously

I just have one more question, should I wait another week to get at least the 2 Plecos I have at the LPS or should I wait more???

@pica_nuttalli:
I can't wait until I get the bigger tank because the store policy is to give me the fish the same they I present the corps of the death one, I had to convince them to let me get them later, and they won't give you the money back, so I kind of have to get them as soon as possible, maybe I could exchange them for other type of fish but I don't know if its possible. How big could they get in 4 months anyway???

I was planning on waiting another week after getting these 2 in order to get my other ones but since I'm gona get at least 6 Redeye tetras this time I don't know if I should add them gradually (2 each week) or all at the same time, maybe if I don't get them at the same time they won't get along or something....what do you guys think ???

I will keep on doing daily water changes for at least a month or maybe every 2 days so that the ammonia wont increase too much, I will be getting the test kit in a week because the place were I found them cheaper runned out of stock, it's a "Tetra All-in-one" test kit so I guess that would be alright.

 

[pica_nuttalli]

you should still wait an additional week just in case.

common plecos are territorial. you need a really big tank to house two at once; you really shouldn't get 2 unless you can have a 75g tank. if you can't exchange for one of them, you'll need to just write it off--plecos can do some pretty serious damage when irritated.

my common pleco grew about an inch every 2 months. i bought him at 2 inches last February; when i got rid of him last week he was 9 inches long. that's 7 inches of growth in a little more than a year.

how i would add fish:
--wait another week
--add 1 common pleco
--wait one week
--add 3 red-eye tetras
--wait one week
--add 3 red-eye tetras

don't add any more fish until you've finally gotten your tank upgraded. move over the existing fish and filter, then wait a couple of weeks. then you can add a few more fish, but not many. remember: a common pleco is not only big, but exceptionally messy.

good to hear that you're getting a test kit. being able to test your own water is a big help whenever you're trying to stock/cycle a tank.

 

[shuhu]

wow thats a lot, I thought they grew slowly, maybe I'll reconsider ... too bad you had to get rid of him

And thanks for the advise, I'll do that, I could also probably exchange the 2 Common Plecos for 1 more expensive type of Pleco.