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29 gallon tank ideas!

or a mix of striped regualr tiger barbs and green tiger barbs...very active interesting fish
They are very active! Are the green ones dyed or natural? I really wanted the purple head barbs, golden barbs, and the eight banded barbs, maybe with some blue king tetras but it sadly wouldn’t work for the tank size. Maybe someday.
 
green ones are not dyed....they are natural... green and regular tiger barbs would school together
 
They are not natural in the sense that you'd find them swimming with the stripey ones in their original habitat, but they are natural in the sense than nothing has been done to them to make them green - no dying, no tattooing, no jellyfish genes. They are the results of selective breeding for that colour, like the different colours of guppy.
Besides natural (orange with black stripes) and green, there are also 'albino' tiger barbs (pale orange, white stripes) and platinum tiger barbs (solid silver body, black fins)
 
A species only celestial pearl danio tank could be interesting. You'd need a lot of them. 20 or more. But they're small enough that you could have that many in a 29 gallon.
 
Would these fish work in my 29 gallon Hemigrammus rhodostomus, Boehlkea fredcochui, Hyphesskbrycon cyanotaeni, panda Cory’s and zebra otocinclus? Each would have a school of 6 to 8 or could I do more or would I have to do less?
 
All those fish would do better in groups of at least 10, but that would be too much. Cut it down to two of the tetra species.
But 10+ otos of any species is too much for a tank this size, so 6 of those, if the tank has grown enough algae to feed 6. Otos commonly won't eat anything but algae when first bought. They may or may not learn to eat other foods once they settle.
 
Would these fish work in my 29 gallon Hemigrammus rhodostomus, Boehlkea fredcochui, Hyphesskbrycon cyanotaeni, panda Cory’s and zebra otocinclus? Each would have a school of 6 to 8 or could I do more or would I have to do less?

Hemigrammus rhodostomus. This tank is not long enough. This characin loves to swim, continually. It does this in nature and in the aquarium. It remains as a tight shoal, almost unique among characins, and swims fron end to end. It only breaks this up when feeding. It does better with larger groups, I had 21 in a 5-foot tank, what a sight. I would never have this species in anything under 3 feet, preferably 4-feet. And in a grop of at least 12, but certainly preferably more. BTW, a taxonomic note.

Phylogenetic analysis has now shown that the "rummy nose" tetras (there are three distinct species) are all in the genus Petitella.

P. rhodostomus (previously Hemigrammus rhodostomus) was the first discovered, by Ahlin 1924. P. georgiae is the largest and least often seen. This species was the second of the three "Rummy Nose" tetras to be discovered; the species was described and named by Jacques Gery and H. Boutiere in 1964. Recognizing that this fish was physiologically distinct from Hemigrammus rhodostomus, Gery & Boutiere erected the genus Petitella [the name derived from the French petit meaning small, diminutive] for this species. In the 1960's a third species was discovered by Heiko Bleher; Gery & Mahnert (1984) described the species as Hemigrammus bleheri, in honour of its discoverer. This species is by far the most common one seen, and it has the most brillian red head, justifying its common names of "fire head" and "brilliant rummynose" etc. I have had this species and P. georgiae for many years, but never come across P. rhodostomus which sort of disappeared out of the hobby after Heiko introduced the more brightly coloured species.

Boehikea fredcochui. This quite lovely fish grows to 2 inches, and it is an active swimmer too, very much so, so here again a minimum 30-inch tank but I wold never use less than a 3-foot tank; without sufficient space it can turn feisty with other fish. Based on the activity alone, I would not combine this with any of the sedate or inactive tetras. I had a group in my 5-foot tank and they were all over the place, but never any sort of problem. They just need active tankmates. These and the rummys would do well together, I had both in the 5-foot; the rummys remain in the lower third, the blues in the upper half of the water column. They need space though.

Hyphessobrycon cyanotaeni. I have not encountered this species, so I had to search data. It was described by Zarsky & Gery in 2006. It is just under 2 inches length. Aquarium Glaser has "They are almost always moving, very voracious, peaceful and the males are constantly busy with fights for their territory among themselves." I would take it from this that it is much like B. fredcochui, needing at least a 3-foot if not 4-foot tank.

Tank space is the key issue here, unfortunately.
 
Hemigrammus rhodostomus. This tank is not long enough. This characin loves to swim, continually. It does this in nature and in the aquarium. It remains as a tight shoal, almost unique among characins, and swims fron end to end. It only breaks this up when feeding. It does better with larger groups, I had 21 in a 5-foot tank, what a sight. I would never have this species in anything under 3 feet, preferably 4-feet. And in a grop of at least 12, but certainly preferably more. BTW, a taxonomic note.

Phylogenetic analysis has now shown that the "rummy nose" tetras (there are three distinct species) are all in the genus Petitella.

P. rhodostomus (previously Hemigrammus rhodostomus) was the first discovered, by Ahlin 1924. P. georgiae is the largest and least often seen. This species was the second of the three "Rummy Nose" tetras to be discovered; the species was described and named by Jacques Gery and H. Boutiere in 1964. Recognizing that this fish was physiologically distinct from Hemigrammus rhodostomus, Gery & Boutiere erected the genus Petitella [the name derived from the French petit meaning small, diminutive] for this species. In the 1960's a third species was discovered by Heiko Bleher; Gery & Mahnert (1984) described the species as Hemigrammus bleheri, in honour of its discoverer. This species is by far the most common one seen, and it has the most brillian red head, justifying its common names of "fire head" and "brilliant rummynose" etc. I have had this species and P. georgiae for many years, but never come across P. rhodostomus which sort of disappeared out of the hobby after Heiko introduced the more brightly coloured species.

Boehikea fredcochui. This quite lovely fish grows to 2 inches, and it is an active swimmer too, very much so, so here again a minimum 30-inch tank but I wold never use less than a 3-foot tank; without sufficient space it can turn feisty with other fish. Based on the activity alone, I would not combine this with any of the sedate or inactive tetras. I had a group in my 5-foot tank and they were all over the place, but never any sort of problem. They just need active tankmates. These and the rummys would do well together, I had both in the 5-foot; the rummys remain in the lower third, the blues in the upper half of the water column. They need space though.

Hyphessobrycon cyanotaeni. I have not encountered this species, so I had to search data. It was described by Zarsky & Gery in 2006. It is just under 2 inches length. Aquarium Glaser has "They are almost always moving, very voracious, peaceful and the males are constantly busy with fights for their territory among themselves." I would take it from this that it is much like B. fredcochui, needing at least a 3-foot if not 4-foot tank.

Tank space is the key issue here, unfortunately.
Ok sorry very long post so are you saying yes on the blue king tetras, yellow lapis tetra, but no with the rummy nose? Sorry scientific names confuse me a bit lol and what about the otocinclus?
 
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Ok wait I might have figured out what you are saying. The Boehikea fredcochui and the Hemigrammus rhodostomus would be good together but they would ideally like a bigger tank but the Hyphessobrycon cyanotaenia wouldn’t be a very good idea. I have also never encountered them before or even heard of them. I was researching different kinds of tetras and this came up they remind me of Hyphessobrycon herbertaxelrodi but yellow. I also had never heard of the Hyphessobrycon cyanotaenia either but they seemed very beautiful and I thought they might work. There are a lot more kinds of tetras than I thought. I did figure out that there are 3 kinds of rummy nose tetras which would be best if I were to get them? Thanks for the info! If I am wrong please correct me! Thanks 😊!!
 
You may find the H. cyanotaenia almost impossible to source.

Byon said that none of the three tetra species in post #21 are suitable as all of them need a longer tank due to their active swimming.
 
The tank is not long enough for any of the rummynose species, nor the other two in post #21 as essjay stated.

There are currently more than 1674 described characin species in approximately 270 genera within 24 Families [Fishbase 2022]. Roughly 20% of the characin families with approximately 200 species occur in Africa; the remainder are in South America with a few having made their way into Central America, Mexico and southern Texas no later than 5 million years ago. The taxonomy of the characids is still changing and will continue to do so for many years due to increasing study of fish populations. For instance, there are currently some 304 species of aquarium fish in the Hemigrammus clade which includes all Hemigrammus and Hyphessobrycon species, and nearly all of these are deemed incertes sedes, or of uncertain placement.

There are a number of fish in the hobby that have not yet been described, adding to the number of characins. They will most likely turn out to be new species. the following from an article I wrote a decade or so agao may be of interest.

The oldest characid fossil record comes from the late Jurassic period, more than 145 million years ago. Several ichthyologists now view the characins as representing the oldest and most ancient of freshwater fishes, and (George Albert) Boulenger considered them the ancestors of the naked catfish, barbs, eels and Knifefish.

The ancestor of all modern Characiformes appeared when the two southern continents of Africa and South America were part of the supercontinent called Gondwana [Lundberg 1993; Ortí and Meyer 1997]. The breakup of the two continents allowed the characins in what became South America to take full advantage of the potential [=empty or not fully-exploited] ecological niches, and the characids underwent explosive radiation unlike any other in all the vertebrates except for the marsupials in Australia. The diversification of the cichlid fishes in the African rift lakes during the past 15,000 years is a more recent though much smaller-scaled example.

The divergence in ecological specialization among the characids is truly remarkable. With respect to feeding, many are predatory, several are herbivore, some survive by eating fish fins and scales, some are mud-eaters, and some sift plankton from the water; in other respects, some “hop” on the substrate, some leap from the water and glide, some jump out of the water and spawn on terrestrial vegetation, some swim with their head vertically downward, some are capable of air-breathing, and some exhibit nesting behaviours and parental care. No other order of fish possesses such diversity.
 
Sorry for my misunderstanding! I am probably going to just keep putting up ideas until one works so sorry for that lol. What about the Heterocharax vigulatus? Would the panda Cory’s and otocinclus work together?
 
There is little information on-line about H. vigulatus, making it tricky to advise whether or not it is suitable for you tank and water.

Do you not like any of the fish with lots of info out there ;)
 
There is little information on-line about H. vigulatus, making it tricky to advise whether or not it is suitable for you tank and water.

Do you not like any of the fish with lots of info out there ;)
Apparently not 😆. I am trying to find ones that are more uncommon. I want this tank to be fish I haven’t owned and of course the ones with the littlest information are the prettiest!!
 

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