ugh, my dad just got home today, i was originally talking to him on a phone, and he said he doesn't like kuhli loaches because he heard something about them growing really big? and he said he doesnt want the gbr in there any more. so i was thinking i would still sneak in the 3 kuhli loache, but now i can add other fish, because of the lower temps i can now have. so anyone have any ideas? they need to be low priced, easy to care for, appealing to the eye. and i was now thinking about otocinclus catfish again, so anyone know if they will work? sorry about the inconvince i have deeply appreciated all the time and advice you have given me, and i hope to make anothe tank one day using the stocing advice mentioned already