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O, no! Neither of you should apologize! Your discussion was right on for the cichlids the OP was asking about and you both have nice info I certainly don't have. I always think this is exactly what a thread should be about, I mean it varies and sometimes things can get too confusing, but generally I think its ideal when it leads to in-depth discussions and varied people join in. Definately one of the great things about the forum format!! :D

~~waterdrop~~
 
Wow so much response! The cichlids look like a good idea then. Do they shoal like the neons would? Also could i keep a fish such as a plec with them?
Thankyou to all for the help!
 
Wow so much response! The cichlids look like a good idea then. Do they shoal like the neons would? Also could i keep a fish such as a plec with them?
Thankyou to all for the help!

I don't know much about chiclids so i'll just give it a bump lol

I do have some leaflets about common fish diseases and treatments from pets at home though, and a book about tropical fish. Hope you reading up on the subject sounds like you are now you know a bit about fish.

Will come up to manch to see you tomorrow.

ciao
 
Ha, no, cichlids are the opposite of shoaling neons I'd say.

Cichlids usually move about the tank rather freely and often rather independently of others of their own species, except that they have a very complex behavior with the other cichlids - there's very special territorial and mating behaviors to learn about and take into account. These vary by individual species of cichlids and then, just to add to the complexity, they are among the few types of fish (gouramis are another) which can have very different personalities on an individual fish basis, even within species type. They often (usually?) have an important relationship with the bottom of the tank, particularly caves and territories they consider home, but they still move about.

Very different from this are many tetra species. This fish are often found in huge shoals in the wild and depend on the communication of danger from their shoal-mates. They can disperse and be at ease apart from each other at times perceived as low danger, but they will tighten up into a group (how tightly depends on species) when they perceive something being wrong.

This is contrasted again if you look at various livebearer species, like platies, swordtails and guppies for instance. These fish mill all about the tank, top to bottom and pick at things, not having much of any shoaling behavior at all but also not having the complex mating behaviors or territorial behaviors of cichlids.

There are various other generalized behaviors of different groups of species you could describe, but one principle you can count on is that the longer you observe these different things for yourself the more you will come to recognize differences in the different species. So, for instance, even though you can usually count on the generalization that tetra species will shoal, as you get to know the different species you see interesting differences in the individual species and its quite fascinating, so enjoy!

~~waterdrop~~
 
O, no! Neither of you should apologize! Your discussion was right on for the cichlids the OP was asking about and you both have nice info I certainly don't have. I always think this is exactly what a thread should be about, I mean it varies and sometimes things can get too confusing, but generally I think its ideal when it leads to in-depth discussions and varied people join in. Definately one of the great things about the forum format!! :D

~~waterdrop~~
Thanks waterdrop. ;)

Jonny - Waterdrop has explained everything a lot clearer than I could have managed, so not much to add.
Dwarf Cichlids would be fine in pairs or a trio, although I've always kept pairs with no problems.
You could keep a Plec, providing it is one that doesn't get too big. Bristlenose Catfish is a popular choice for many fishkeepers and they don't grow too big.
I've always added Plecs to a tank when it has been running for at least three months as some can be quite sensitive.
 
So i think i will start with a few (2-3) cichlids and a plec (Bristlenose Catfish) and maybe add tetras when the tank is stable and been running a while.
Thanks waterdrop and stang!

I know there an aquarium with a great rep near me. Will have to pay it a visit soon to see what conditions they keep the fish in.

Jonny
 
So Jonny, has bro advised you on a good liquid-reagent-based test kit? Have you been able to find the right type of ammonia for the fishless cycle? Have you been reading and re-reading our fishless cycle and nitrogen cycle articles?

Not to mention that bro better be offering you some mature media if he's got enough :lol:

~~waterdrop~~
 
So Jonny, has bro advised you on a good liquid-reagent-based test kit? Have you been able to find the right type of ammonia for the fishless cycle? Have you been reading and re-reading our fishless cycle and nitrogen cycle articles?

Not to mention that bro better be offering you some mature media if he's got enough :lol:

~~waterdrop~~

Im better than offering him mature media, im giving him a mature filter :D (Fluval 3+) im a good brother lol, but it means i get to get the new fluval u3 which is already in the post :)

I recomend the API feshwater master test kit for £27 from pets at home (with discount too :))

andrew
 
Hahaaaa bro you wanna set this up for me?!

I am stealing some of your fish too :D

And yes I have been reading and re-reading the fishless cycling. Will get some pure ammonia and still cycle for a while with mature filter. Thanks
 
Hahaaaa bro you wanna set this up for me?!

I am stealing some of your fish too :D

And yes I have been reading and re-reading the fishless cycling. Will get some pure ammonia and still cycle for a while with mature filter. Thanks

I got the new u3 by fluval this morning in the post. Its amazing although i thought u could have all 3 flow outlets at once but u can't. Apart from thats its really good, been designed for fishkeepers :)
 

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