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they dont look as big and piggish with those trailing fins

2-3 " i think, nice addition to a community tank or solo in a smaller tank

Rams a purty and the stay small or you could do a cichlid lake tank depending on what you want to put in there and their needs

20 g, planted with 2 pieces of drift wood providing cover as well as some leafy plants and rocks

I have 2 which were extremely good with each other but for some reason they are taking territories now. but i dont even think they would dream about touching other fish

I bought some Bolivian rams hoping they were female and male. I should get some pictures up on here so maybe someone can take a stab at their sexes. But they were just fine it even looked like they might be pairing but one has turned a much darker color and is now attacking/chasing the other...

mine do it all the time... i think they're trying to talk to me!

oh, i forgot to mention i'm in in need of a dealer that ships to canada easily and isnt too expensive

These guys look awsome, only problem is i live in a small city 60 000 and there are only 3 lfs which makes it very hard to find certain types of fish, does anyone know a good source that they've had experience with that sells shellies?

sounds good, whats the issue with white sand?

i have a couple of otos with my rams they do very well, they are damn active during the day which is interesting to watch and the rams dont bother them at all

i have a car but i dont know how a drive with some fish would go over

I was very interested in keeping some shell dwellers and have read a fair amount of info on them but i was wondering what else, if anything, could be kept with them if they were put into a larger tank such as a 55 gallon?

I know of some Discus dealers but other than that i havent seen many i'm real interested in finding a good Cichlid dealer as the ones in my small city arent all that great and my next tank i think i'm going to try shell dwellers but none are sold around here! if you find one please send the update!