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@ the_lock_man & BigbruiserAI Thanks guys - i learnt something new today! :hyper: Confirmed my suspicions. :good:

thanks, that cleared that up for me. it will explain why seed material is more effective placed inside the filter,than placed inside tank. Incidently if seed material is placed directly opposite a spray bar, in the tank, it will be ok initially? but by the time they are swirled back into inlet...

? she has "I put the filter cartridge in the new tank (not in the filter because it wont fit)" so, so long as she has a filter to the new tank, the bacteria will eventually go back into the new filter? is that right?

ditto Is that even legal? Hope you stock up on prime/amquel+ etc water changes during the maintenance stage wud seem pointless :blink: hardy fishes all the way

over 29days and ure cycle hasn't even kick-off??? something is off. Recheck every equipment, water paramters, ure tap water parameters, get a water report from your water authority. You're using tap water not bottled water right? Do a 100% tap water change No point doing a fish-in cycle, if...

Does the "Evolution Aqua Pure Pond Slow Release Bacteria Gell Balls " really work??? I know one other person used it but no feedback. It sells in such large volume, would need alot less in aquariums?! How to work out how much? If i cycle a 2nd tank, wud consider it, maybe????? ps impressive...

Try a mixture; since u already have the brand ones, get some generic - some of the generic ones are of good quality and comes in all shapes&sizes - even better increase surface area in my opinion. Some of the brand ones are old-style & less surface area for the bacteria. get more of the bio...

only when and if u get a bigger tank.....then its up to mother nature and ure water maintenance i hope the 20l isn't a biorb/round tank.....they're the worse for stunting growth

Thats good to know thx.....was worried

Again, whilst researching, someone said that "the seed tank temp must match the cycling tank temp?" Mine wud be from a 20 degree to a 29 degree?! would that harm the seed bacteria, and make it ineffective in the cycling tank, for the purposes of speeding-up cycling? any thoughts? :/

+1 yikes thats one itsy bitsy tank for its occupiers monster growth i'm no proffessional expert but i know you need at least 10 gallon tank per goldfish ( x4? = litres), even then thats for small ones - body inches. A large 200-300L, long & shallow tank wud be perfect. They may seem...

:) no problem

@ Hollywood1992 & ShinyCard255 the advice wasn't given to me, i just came across it, but i had never heard of such a thing,so i wanted to check with this forum if the advice was sound, since this forum is particularly thorough in the cycle procedure. @ ctsv510 thank you,once again sound logic...

Hi, whilst researching on cycling info i cam across this statement; "As you are doing a fishless cycle, you have the liberty of plowing into your local fish store and asking for dirty media. If there are sick fish in there - it doesn't matter. The fish pathogens (disease causers) will die off...

eh? my pots & pans are stainless steel, cos i thought the tefal& non-stick/aluminium pans are bad. copper pots&pans are way expensive.

well thats cleared it up abit for me.... my combi-boiler suggests unlikely copper. But the house was built around 70s suggest mains copper pipes In which case the coppers in both my cold&hot tap water....copper aside from being a metal, is harmful because....? Agree prime converts/neutralises...

lol ...just wanted to say luv ure user name, since my fish fiasco since july til now, i've felt 'deranged' by my aquarium woes, and hopefully sorted soon, and will no longer be a 'cow' to all within "bad mood" radius.

hmmm on reflection.... our current home(we move alot), we don't have a watertank, the hot water runs on a combi-boiler, so the mains water gets heated as and when required, which suggests that it shud be ok, to take hot water from the hot water tap?! guess it wud be different if u had a water...

I was told never to use the hot tap water also. i have furr/scales in my kettle(even after de-scaling it a couple of times-never completely removes it.), and i've always used kettle boiled water, and no matter how i try, can't avoid tiny bits of scale getting into the tank. If i can use the...

Continued thx to all the contributors.......its mind-boggleing trying to understand....without the scientific background.... - its my first eva fishless cycle, so choosing either method, with much trepidation. Reading the info on here, i've kinda got the jist of how to do the add & wait method...

ADD&WAIT v ADD DAILY 1st fishless cycle eva hi all, i'm embarking on the 2nd method "add daily" - planning on keeping fancy goldfish(messy poopers), to max stock, so according to rdd's thread, the 2nd method is ideal for me. However its the least popular, so not much info on it. my queries...