Would it be safe to add two more gudgeons?

[Rocky998]

Yesterday one of my three gudgeons died leaving me with two... I'm thinking that I should get two more and if one dies out of stress or whatever disease it may have from being elsewhere (hopefully non-contagious) I will still have three. And if they all live than YIPEE I have four. And would having four gudgeons effect the number of lambchop rasboras I want which is nine. (Not nine as in the germany nine which is no LOL)

 

[StripySnailGirl04]

Yesterday one of my three gudgeons died leaving me with two... I'm thinking that I should get two more and if one dies out of stress or whatever disease it may have from being elsewhere (hopefully non-contagious) I will still have three. And if they all live than YIPEE I have four. And would having four gudgeons effect the number of lambchop rasboras I want which is nine. (Not nine as in the germany nine which is no LOL)

You could try. Would probably still be fine with those 9 Rasboras you want. Just don't forget SNAILS

 

[Rocky998]

You could try. Would probably still be fine with those 9 Rasboras you want. Just don't forget SNAILS

Ok, thank you.

 

[StripySnailGirl04]

(Not nine as in the germany nine which is no LOL)

LOL!

 

[AbbeysDad]

It's always a question of how many fish can be managed in a given size aquarium. Now for a moment, lets set aside that some species simply REQUIRE many of their own kind in order to be content...and lets just focus on bio-load relative to tank size.

I'll just cut to the bottom line. It all really comes down to water quality. With just a few fish, especially in a well planted, balanced tank, you can get away with little routine maintenance since water quality degrades very, very slowly. You can have what most would consider to be an overstocked tank, if, and only IF, you do what's necessary to maintain high water quality.

IF you have plants, especially fast growing floating plants, feed modestly, AND do routine partial water changes of sufficient volume/frequency to ensure high water quality, then you can have a 'well stocked' aquarium. BUT, you can't slack off as that would be potentially harmful to the fish you are the caretaker for. Like any other animals in our charge, we have to be responsible to give our fish the best life possible!

Good Fishkeeping.

Edit footnote: And that's where many hobbyists fail. They enthusiastically get a tank and often through ignorance or laziness they don't do the necessary maintenance, fish suffer and die, and the tank ends up in the garage or basement or on Craig's list. If your reading this, Don't let that be you (although on this forum, I'll bet I'm 'preaching to the choir here.) lol

 

[Rocky998]

It's always a question of how many fish can be managed in a given size aquarium. Now for a moment, lets set aside that some species simply REQUIRE many of their own kind in order to be content...and lets just focus on bio-load relative to tank size.

I'll just cut to the bottom line. It all really comes down to water quality. With just a few fish, especially in a well planted, balanced tank, you can get away with little routine maintenance since water quality degrades very, very slowly. You can have what most would consider to be an overstocked tank, if, and only IF, you do what's necessary to maintain high water quality.

IF you have plants, especially fast growing floating plants, feed modestly, AND do routine partial water changes of sufficient volume/frequency to ensure high water quality, then you can have a 'well stocked' aquarium. BUT, you can't slack off as that would be potentially harmful to the fish you are the caretaker for. Like any other animals in our charge, we have to be responsible to give our fish the best life possible!

Good Fishkeeping.

I completely agree. This is why I would only add in a few weeks, not in a few days. I want to make sure my tank is ok before adding any more fish. I honestly think my tank could handle it if I just went and got a few more fish but im not going to rush it...

 

[StripySnailGirl04]

Not nine as in the germany nine which is no LOL

No in Germany is spelt as "nein" as in "Nein, Ich habe acht Fische."

 

[Rocky998]

No in Germany is spelt as "nein" as in "Nein, Ich habe acht Fische."

Its pronounced the same... And you can spell nine with nein like you can with Satan and santa

 

[itiwhetu]

I would wait a while, add the rasboras next. Then think about more gudgeons. But wait, it is never a good idea to add fish to a tank when a fish has died.

 

[Naughts]

Will you quarantine new fish?

 

[Rocky998]

I would wait a while, add the rasboras next. Then think about more gudgeons. But wait, it is never a good idea to add fish to a tank when a fish has died.

While I do agree on not adding fish after fish death, this was a stress induced death that was not a disease. I am still waiting, most likely a week at least before I get any more. And about the rasboras... I would really want to get one group of fish set up before I get another group of fish.

 

[Rocky998]

Will you quarantine new fish?

The plan is to do that. I need to drain the qt tabk cause I have not touched it in a while... I got side tracked with other things

 

[itiwhetu]

While I do agree on not adding fish after fish death, this was a stress induced death that was not a disease. I am still waiting, most likely a week at least before I get any more. And about the rasboras... I would really want to get one group of fish set up before I get another group of fish.

Are you sure it was stress related death, how are you so positive stress was the cause of death?

 

[StandbySetting]

None of us can be sure, but given these fish came straight from the supplier to the store, then without being given chance to recover from their journey they were transferred again to Rocky's tank. As my previous post stated, stress probably exacerbated a pre-existing disease.

 

[itiwhetu]

The thirteen fish I recently received were 24 hours in transit, no problems. Fish regularly travel 48-72 hours without any issues. These fish haven't been under that sort of stress.