White bodied guppies

[Melcaara]

I'm in the process of trying to make a strain of guppy, and I specifically am wanting a solid white body without using albino. Anyone have information on how the white platinum gene works, and potentially know of anyone that has white platinum that is x linked? (I want the females to have it as well if possible)
I have been researching like crazy about how guppy genes interact, but getting a white without albino and without looking transparent isn't explained in any of the pages I could find.

 

[emeraldking]

Best is to use blond specimens. But you can also work with grey bodied specimens if you'll use Japan blue guppies that carry the Störzbach gene. But you can also use grey bodied ones that carry the magenta gene (and preferably that they carry the Störzbach gene which most magentas have). . In general, the males will show more and more white after each generation. And yes, that will be Y-linked and not X-linked. But if you'll use Japan blues, from time to time some females will carry the dominant trait for white as well.
I have two different lines of white guppies. One created with the platinum gene in it and one that's got both Japan blue and magenta genes with Störzbach. Both lines are blond bodied now. I say "now' for the line with japan blue and magenta in it, had also grey bodied ancestors. And that's very easy to do, if you have two guppies that carry recessively the blond gene. Then the outcome will be partially blond besides the grey bodied offspring.
You really don't have to use an albino specimen to create white guppies.

 

[Melcaara]

Best is to use blond specimens. But you can also work with grey bodied specimens if you'll use Japan blue guppies that carry the Störzbach gene. But you can also use grey bodied ones that carry the magenta gene (and preferably that they carry the Störzbach gene which most magentas have). . In general, the males will show more and more white after each generation. And yes, that will be Y-linked and not X-linked. But if you'll use Japan blues, from time to time some females will carry the dominant trait for white as well.
I have two different lines of white guppies. One created with the platinum gene in it and one that's got both Japan blue and magenta genes with Störzbach. Both lines are blond bodied now. I say "now' for the line with japan blue and magenta in it, had also grey bodied ancestors. And that's very easy to do, if you have two guppies that carry recessively the blond gene. Then the outcome will be partially blond besides the grey bodied offspring.
You really don't have to use an albino specimen to create white guppies.

Ooh, I actually have some blonde magentas! The females are completely blonde with no patterning or color, males a pinky orange color with shortened fins. The only problem it, the white body isn't the only thing I want in my strain. I think the short fins would cause a problem, because I'm wanting longer finnage in the end. I have a range of traits for my end goal (and an idea to experiment with to see if it works) but they all involve red koi patterning with the actual white body. I'm not as picky on the finnage, but I'm not a fan of the fins on the magentas that I own

Platinum would work instead, I'd probably need to breed it to full body coverage myself if I can't find someone who sells something close enough

 

[emeraldking]

Ooh, I actually have some blonde magentas! The females are completely blonde with no patterning or color, males a pinky orange color with shortened fins. The only problem it, the white body isn't the only thing I want in my strain. I think the short fins would cause a problem, because I'm wanting longer finnage in the end. I have a range of traits for my end goal (and an idea to experiment with to see if it works) but they all involve red koi patterning with the actual white body. I'm not as picky on the finnage, but I'm not a fan of the fins on the magentas that I own

Platinum would work instead, I'd probably need to breed it to full body coverage myself if I can't find someone who sells something close enough

You should work on the white body first. If that's completed, focus on larger finnage.

 

[Melcaara]

You should work on the white body first. If that's completed, focus on larger finnage.

Okay! Will do I'll post updates over time. Thank you!

 

[emeraldking]

Okay! Will do I'll post updates over time. Thank you!

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