Which should I spawn?

mandi

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Here's my male (3 pics, all same fish):

male03.jpg
male01.jpg
male02.jpg


And here are the two spawn-sisters I have to go with him:

female_light.jpg


female_dark.jpg


They're all about 4 months old. The first (lighter-colored) female is smaller than the male, and the darker female is a teeny bit larger. I'm not planning on spawning them till December though, so that could change.

Personally, I'm kind of leaning toward the 2nd female -- she's missing her ventrals, but her color and personality are awesome (she's a lot more "outgoing" than the other female). What do you guys think?
 
mandi said:
Here's my male (3 pics, all same fish):

male03.jpg
male01.jpg
male02.jpg


And here are the two spawn-sisters I have to go with him:

female_light.jpg


female_dark.jpg


They're all about 4 months old. The first (lighter-colored) female is smaller than the male, and the darker female is a teeny bit larger. I'm not planning on spawning them till December though, so that could change.

Personally, I'm kind of leaning toward the 2nd female -- she's missing her ventrals, but her color and personality are awesome (she's a lot more "outgoing" than the other female). What do you guys think?
The first female with Ventrals

If u breed her with the one with-out ventrals Ur gonna carry that gene

So go with the Ventral female

Like wuv said ur male is a real looker

Hope they enjoyed the worms..... ;)
 
The first female with Ventrals
If u breed her with the one with-out ventrals Ur gonna carry that gene
So go with the Ventral female
Like wuv said ur male is a real looker
Hope they enjoyed the worms.....

Yeah the "kids" are enjoying the worms quite a lot!

I thought (and the breeder told me) that missing ventrals aren't a genetic thing ... they're due to bacteria (or something like that) in the fry tank.... ?

And wuv -- thanks for the compliment about my male. :) I'm fond of him.
 
It looks like the turq has a better caudal. It has sharper corners. The royal has a better dorsal. The male needs a better dorsal, and sharper edges on the caudal, so either female would do nicely. The females throw the finnage, and the males throw the color. This is not 100%, but it is the normal. You should get nice fry from them. I would breed both of the females to him, and make 2 different lines to cross back to.
 
if you look at the seccond female you can almost see a see threw ventral even though small still there... and if it was genetic than the other femal and the male would have it... remember they siblings :p
 
JoKeR said:
mandi said:
Here's my male (3 pics, all same fish):

male03.jpg
male01.jpg
male02.jpg


And here are the two spawn-sisters I have to go with him:

female_light.jpg


female_dark.jpg


They're all about 4 months old. The first (lighter-colored) female is smaller than the male, and the darker female is a teeny bit larger. I'm not planning on spawning them till December though, so that could change.

Personally, I'm kind of leaning toward the 2nd female -- she's missing her ventrals, but her color and personality are awesome (she's a lot more "outgoing" than the other female). What do you guys think?
The first female with Ventrals

If u breed her with the one with-out ventrals Ur gonna carry that gene

So go with the Ventral female

Like wuv said ur male is a real looker

Hope they enjoyed the worms..... ;)
actually ventrals/no ventrals is not a gene.
if you breed the female without ventrals, the fry will still have ventrals.
 
jacblades said:
if you breed the female without ventrals, the fry will still have ventrals.
Is this factual based on personal experience?

Ventraless fish have seemed to stump the betta world and everybody says it's from bacteria. I ,however,do not think so.
 
I bumped the "case of the missing ventrals" so everyone can read what we all talked about on that thread, wuv... :lol:
 
wuvmybetta said:
jacblades said:
if you breed the female without ventrals, the fry will still have ventrals.
Is this factual based on personal experience?

Ventraless fish have seemed to stump the betta world and everybody says it's from bacteria. I ,however,do not think so.
i have read several places that it is not genetic. ehres the only one i can remember.
http://www.bcbetta.com/fry.html
 
Yes, that seems to be the most popular link :whistle: You've read that it's not genetic specifically or do you mean that everything you've read say's it's bacterial?
 
wuvmybetta said:
Yes, that seems to be the most popular link :whistle: You've read that it's not genetic specifically or do you mean that everything you've read say's it's bacterial?
both. i am thinking i read that gene lucas said that it it not genetic.
i just dont see the argument for genetics.
 
It would help if you could find a link or something to support it. I've read a lot of Dr.Lucas' articles, I've never seen mention of it. As of right now, I feel as though the bacterial explanation is just heresay. It spread through generations of breeders...as it apparently is still doing.
 

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