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Whats Wrong With My Dalmation Molly

mattyydunn

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i have 2 dalmation mollies and one of them has spent most of its day lying on the gravel next to the filter intake and heater hes hardly moved most of the day the only time he has really made any sort of move is for the food i put in earlyer an if the other molly came near him

his tail is curved to one side and keeps moving it to that one side his fin on his back will not flare up he normally has it flared alot to show it off, and it looks like hes lost a bit of colour on this rear fin and around his ead/mouth


what could be wrong with him?
 
are you sure its a he first, then second if it is a female it could be preggers. My female LOVES to hide under my boat all the time. she is perfectly healthy though

either way i would give it a dose of myxazin just incase
 
yeah 100% sure hes a he.

far to large to be a female and his rear fin is huge
i had a female which was pregnant and got her swapped for him


forgot to mention i suspected that he had white spot the other week he had the white spots on his fin's and was doing that flicking? rubbing off the bogwood etc in the tank that seems to have cleared up after treating him but he is most defiantly the most active of the two and he just hasnt moved all day apart from to eat
 
Whats your readings for ammonia & nitrite?

How long has the tank been set up?
 
Whats your readings for ammonia & nitrite?

How long has the tank been set up?

did a water change this morning he has seemed to have lighened up a little bit after that but theres still something wrong with him

Before Water Change

Ammonia - 0.25ppm
Nitrite - 0.25ppm
Nitrate was a little high at 10ppm which is why a did the water change
(was told i dont need to worry about Nitrate as much as the Ammonia and Nitrite but i still do)

After Water Change


Ammonia - 0ppm
Nitrite - 0ppm
Nitrate - between 0-5ppm

tank has been going for about 7-8 weeks now only added fish less than 2 weeks ago
 
Not really been cycled then.

Keep up with water changes ie 10% a week is a winner for me. Also, be sure to use a Gravel Vac to get rid of all the bad stuff
 
Not really been cycled then.

Keep up with water changes ie 10% a week is a winner for me. Also, be sure to use a Gravel Vac to get rid of all the bad stuff

since a put the fish in less than 2 weeks ago i have done a water change twice once today and at the end of the 1st week a use a gravel cleaner to suck the water out as i have a fluval edge with the pain in the bum opening at the top so i get all the bad stuff out the gravel then. a normally get about 20% of the water by the time am finished with the gravel cleaner
 
Whats your readings for ammonia & nitrite?

How long has the tank been set up?

did a water change this morning he has seemed to have lighened up a little bit after that but theres still something wrong with him

Before Water Change

Ammonia - 0.25ppm
Nitrite - 0.25ppm
Nitrate was a little high at 10ppm which is why a did the water change
(was told i dont need to worry about Nitrate as much as the Ammonia and Nitrite but i still do)

After Water Change


Ammonia - 0ppm
Nitrite - 0ppm
Nitrate - between 0-5ppm

tank has been going for about 7-8 weeks now only added fish less than 2 weeks ago


Nitrate at 10ppm is a relatively low figure - many people have more than that in their tap water.

In the 5-6 weeks before you put the fish in, I'm guessing you weren't putting any ammonia in the water, either as pure ammonia, or as something like fishfood which would break down into ammonia?

Have a read of this and this.

A precis of this is that your filter needs to build up colonies of two sorts of bacteria, which will process the ammonia produced by your fish into nitrite, and then into nitrate.

Until you've got enough bacteria, you need to keep doing water changes big enough to keep the ammonia and nitrite levels below 0.25ppm until you are available to change the water again. In other words, it's not enough to change enough water to get your levels down to 0.25ppm, because within a short period of time, the fish will have produced more ammonia, and your levels will be over again. You need to be testing the water at least daily to check the levels of the poisons, and be prepared to change the water at least daily to keep those levels low. 20% per week isn't going to be sufficient.

You're relatively lucky, in that you've only got two fish, so the amount of ammonia being produced is relatively low. However, because you have a small tank, the concentration of ammonia and nitrite will quickly rise.

I think the reason your fish is behaving as it is, is because it is suffering from ammonia and nitrite poisoning. That's why it looked better after you'd changed the water.

If you don't keep these levels low, it's rather similar to humans smoking. Sometimes, you see a human coughing on the smoke. Sometimes you don't. But damage is being done to the human's lungs whichever. Same with the fish. One of your fish showed symptoms. The other didn't. Damage is being done to their gills whichever.

Good luck!
 

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