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What is the worst experience you have had with a customer while working at a LFS or pet store?

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As we all know fish in general are among the most mistreated animals in the pet industry today but it has been rampant for a long time from the days of pet goldfish in tiny unfiltered bowls to today with people bringing home fish they know nothing about only to kill them not too long after then to blame the store for it when it was the owners fault all along for not researching properly if at all (seriously how do you not research in this age of phones and the internet?) .

There are some pretty common examples I hear about like the parent being forced by his child to buy a fish so that the child will shut up even if they have no idea how to care for it or the buyer who refuses to see fish as anything but decorations and not living beings.

So I am asking you this ,pet store and LFS workers/owners what are the absolute worst experiences you have had with a customer wanting to buy fish and what happened to the fish along with the buyer?
 
I worked retail for a number of years so it's probably not that different. What I found most annoying as a customer in a fish store are those individuals that take up all you time asking questions while you have 10 people waiting for help, then doesn't buy anything. As a customer I've also cringed over the advise some of the fish sales people give to their customers - they have to know it will kill some fish and it's not good for them = or maybe they've just been given crummy info - most sales people, however, really seem passionate about their jobs and have a lot of knowledge to give especially since it's usually a very poorly paid job;
 
I dont work at a fish store

But as a customer...

The store near me doesn't know how to care for their Farlowella twig cats, an older worker i got along with really well told me anytime they get twigs in they only live 2 days and die before they're sold.
Needless to say I keep twigs myself successfully and know their specific needs, I hate seeing the twigs in.

New worker there, refused to sell me the twigs they had just got in because I already have 2.

Made me pretty angry because they don't even provide food for these guys what they need, just those stupid weekend feeder white blocks and flakes. (If anyone knows twigs, theyre a lot like otos, strict vegetarians)

But another customer asked what she could keep with a betta.
Told her as long as the tank was 1 gallon she could keep tankmates.
 
The only customer I can think of that annoyed me was a lady who bought two clown loaches. She came back a couple of days later claiming they died. I asked her to bring the bodies back and a separate sample of tank water so we could check it. She went home and got a sample of water, which turned out perfect (0 ammonia, 0 nitrite and 0 nitrate. But she claims her kids disposed of the bodies.

We gave her two replacement loaches and said if she has any trouble with them, or if they die, she is to bring the bodies back immediately so we can check them. She went home and came back a couple of days later claiming they died. I asked her for the bodies and she said she didn't have them. I asked her for a water sample from her tank and she didn't have it. I told her to go and get the bodies and a sample of her tank water and come back.

She came back a couple of hours later with a sample of water that was perfect (0 ammonia, nitrite and nitrate), but no bodies. I asked her where the bodies were and she went on for a minute umming and ahhing. She eventually said her kid had flushed them. I told her without bodies I wasn't going to replace them so she kicked up a stink and asked for the boss. I went and got him and after a few minutes of her dribbling on he said give her two more fish. So I did.

Low and behold a couple of days later she comes back to the shop claiming the two fish died. Again she didn't have any bodies and no water sample. She didn't talk to me this time though, she went after another worker who didn't know what was going on. She convinced him she bought two clown loaches a couple of days before and said they died. I saw her at the counter and walked over to her and asked what was going on. She didn't talk to me so I asked my co-worker. He told me and I said don't give her anything. I then explained to my co-worker that she had been in two times previously during the last week, claiming she had lost the fish and both times she had been told by me, to bring the bodies back. My co-worker then looked at the boss and said what do I do? My boss looked at me and said what do you want to do? I said nothing, she shouldn't get anything unless she brings the bodies back.

My co-worker said he had promised to replace them. The boss didn't want to deal with it. I was told to deal with it so I gave her two more and told her not to come back. She never did and I highly doubt she lost the fish because they were fine in our tanks.

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We had a customer that used to come in and look around and talk to staff but not buy anything. He stuttered and spat when he talked. It was gross. Any way he took a liking to Nicki (one of the staff), and whilst Nicki was polite, she didn't like the guy. This guy came in most days just to try and chat Nicki up. Whenever she saw him arrive she took off out the back. Eventually he found out Nicki was gay and he didn't come back. But it was awful talking to him. Make sure you're wearing an apron and face mask and go change your clothes afterwards. He wouldn't be allowed in the shop with covid.

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We got a letter one day from a customer who was threatening to go to consumer protection because we allegedly sold her a sick fish (male Siamese fighting fish). She hadn't been in and complained, she just sent us a letter demanding a replacement fish or it was off to consumer protection.

We called her up and asked her what was going on and she said she bought a male Betta and it died a week later. I asked her to bring the body and a separate sample of tank water in to test. She said she had dumped the body but did bring in a sample of tank water. The ammonia level was off the scale and it turned out to be an unfiltered bowl that didn't get water changes.

I told the boss what happened and he said give her a new fish but explain the filter cycle to her. So I spent the next hour talking to her and explained filters and water quality. She didn't get a filter but did say she would do water changes every couple of days from now on. She took her replacement fish and left, never to return.

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On a Saturday at lunch time the shop was full of customers. I was talking to a customer about getting a new tank and what he required for it. Another customer came over and kept saying "excuse me, I need to tell you something". I asked him to wait a moment and he wandered off for a bit before returning. He said "I need to tell you something". I said can he wait a few moments because I was with someone. He wandered off and came back 5 minutes later. Said he had to talk to me. I asked the first customer to wait a moment and asked what the other guy wanted. He said the floor in the fish room was flooding. I said thanks, told the first guy to hang on a moment, went out the back and turned the tap off, grabbed the wet floor signs and started mopping the floor.

The moral to this story, if a customer is persistent, perhaps I should ask what he wanted the first time he approached me. :)

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We had a young girl (about 7 or 8 years old) come into the shop one afternoon about 3:30pm. She hung around the shop all afternoon and at 5:30pm when we closed, she sat out the front of the shop.

This happened every week day for a couple of weeks before one of the bosses asked her why she was hanging out in the shop. She responded by saying she was waiting for her mum to pick her up.

That night the boss stayed back late and waited for the mother to pick up the girl. She had a chat to her and said we are not a baby sitting service and she needs to find someone to care for the child when she can't. That was the last we saw of the child.

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I have a long story about a boss that went nuts and beat the crap out of me and a bunch of other staff coz he was whacked out on prescription meds, whacky tobacky and booze. However, that belongs in a psychiatrists office. In fact I have lots of stories that belong in a shrink's office :)
 
There was a young guy that worked at one of my local franchise stores, between him and his dad they had a dozen tanks and over 200 fish. Was very knowledgeable and loved the hobby, but he hated the care guides from petsmart that he had to follow - as he knew a lot of their stocking combinations and tank setups were wrong with the fish on multiple lvl's. He complained about it to me for a bit but there's nothing he is allowed to do about it, it's his job after all. His biggest complaint was the holding tank for donated/returned fish (after a QT period and water testing), as they only had the 1 tank for them be housed in for sale and it was just a hodge-podge of different fish (company policy, he couldn't add them into more appropriate tanks after the QT period).

On the flip side of that coin, I've seen fish care associates at lfs' that just gave awful advice to other customers around me. Went to go get some new plants earlier this week and heard an employee suggest to someone that for a 3 gallon tank, they could keep 'up to 4 guppy's, or a betta fish with a suckerfish (I assume they meant a pleco).

Really just depends I think, on their individual passion for the hobby or not. Some ppl are just working a job w/o prior knowledge, so they just follow the company powerpoint trainings or however that store trains. So you can't really blame them for bad advice, they're just paying bills.

Far as customers go: having heard ppl ask the silliest questions, sometimes I don't feel bad for the owners as I'm listening to them get sold. Just 20 seconds on google w/ a phone would help them avoid trouble and poor advisement, often would save them $ too.

I feel bad for the fish, but compared to other hobby's or pet ownership, seems ppl get into the aquarium hobby with less personal responsibility. I'd have drowned if I had started kayaking without any prior learning and research.

I partially blame how aquarium products are advertised from the MFR's. Next time you're at a franchise store or walmart, even lfs' products - look real close at all the wording on items. A lot is geared to make ppl think they can just start keeping fish that day - it's rare you see anything that says to do a cycle BEFORE adding fish. Some products will advertise that they aid the cycle, or jumpstart it, but then also add that it's safe to use with their fish (which is good to know, but still misleading). Brings the customer back for even more solutions they may not need. But even that isn't the employees fault.
 
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The only customer I can think of that annoyed me was a lady who bought two clown loaches. She came back a couple of days later claiming they died. I asked her to bring the bodies back and a separate sample of tank water so we could check it. She went home and got a sample of water, which turned out perfect (0 ammonia, 0 nitrite and 0 nitrate. But she claims her kids disposed of the bodies.

We gave her two replacement loaches and said if she has any trouble with them, or if they die, she is to bring the bodies back immediately so we can check them. She went home and came back a couple of days later claiming they died. I asked her for the bodies and she said she didn't have them. I asked her for a water sample from her tank and she didn't have it. I told her to go and get the bodies and a sample of her tank water and come back.

She came back a couple of hours later with a sample of water that was perfect (0 ammonia, nitrite and nitrate), but no bodies. I asked her where the bodies were and she went on for a minute umming and ahhing. She eventually said her kid had flushed them. I told her without bodies I wasn't going to replace them so she kicked up a stink and asked for the boss. I went and got him and after a few minutes of her dribbling on he said give her two more fish. So I did.

Low and behold a couple of days later she comes back to the shop claiming the two fish died. Again she didn't have any bodies and no water sample. She didn't talk to me this time though, she went after another worker who didn't know what was going on. She convinced him she bought two clown loaches a couple of days before and said they died. I saw her at the counter and walked over to her and asked what was going on. She didn't talk to me so I asked my co-worker. He told me and I said don't give her anything. I then explained to my co-worker that she had been in two times previously during the last week, claiming she had lost the fish and both times she had been told by me, to bring the bodies back. My co-worker then looked at the boss and said what do I do? My boss looked at me and said what do you want to do? I said nothing, she shouldn't get anything unless she brings the bodies back.

My co-worker said he had promised to replace them. The boss didn't want to deal with it. I was told to deal with it so I gave her two more and told her not to come back. She never did and I highly doubt she lost the fish because they were fine in our tanks.

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We had a customer that used to come in and look around and talk to staff but not buy anything. He stuttered and spat when he talked. It was gross. Any way he took a liking to Nicki (one of the staff), and whilst Nicki was polite, she didn't like the guy. This guy came in most days just to try and chat Nicki up. Whenever she saw him arrive she took off out the back. Eventually he found out Nicki was gay and he didn't come back. But it was awful talking to him. Make sure you're wearing an apron and face mask and go change your clothes afterwards. He wouldn't be allowed in the shop with covid.

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We got a letter one day from a customer who was threatening to go to consumer protection because we allegedly sold her a sick fish (male Siamese fighting fish). She hadn't been in and complained, she just sent us a letter demanding a replacement fish or it was off to consumer protection.

We called her up and asked her what was going on and she said she bought a male Betta and it died a week later. I asked her to bring the body and a separate sample of tank water in to test. She said she had dumped the body but did bring in a sample of tank water. The ammonia level was off the scale and it turned out to be an unfiltered bowl that didn't get water changes.

I told the boss what happened and he said give her a new fish but explain the filter cycle to her. So I spent the next hour talking to her and explained filters and water quality. She didn't get a filter but did say she would do water changes every couple of days from now on. She took her replacement fish and left, never to return.

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On a Saturday at lunch time the shop was full of customers. I was talking to a customer about getting a new tank and what he required for it. Another customer came over and kept saying "excuse me, I need to tell you something". I asked him to wait a moment and he wandered off for a bit before returning. He said "I need to tell you something". I said can he wait a few moments because I was with someone. He wandered off and came back 5 minutes later. Said he had to talk to me. I asked the first customer to wait a moment and asked what the other guy wanted. He said the floor in the fish room was flooding. I said thanks, told the first guy to hang on a moment, went out the back and turned the tap off, grabbed the wet floor signs and started mopping the floor.

The moral to this story, if a customer is persistent, perhaps I should ask what he wanted the first time he approached me. :)

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We had a young girl (about 7 or 8 years old) come into the shop one afternoon about 3:30pm. She hung around the shop all afternoon and at 5:30pm when we closed, she sat out the front of the shop.

This happened every week day for a couple of weeks before one of the bosses asked her why she was hanging out in the shop. She responded by saying she was waiting for her mum to pick her up.

That night the boss stayed back late and waited for the mother to pick up the girl. She had a chat to her and said we are not a baby sitting service and she needs to find someone to care for the child when she can't. That was the last we saw of the child.

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I have a long story about a boss that went nuts and beat the crap out of me and a bunch of other staff coz he was whacked out on prescription meds, whacky tobacky and booze. However, that belongs in a psychiatrists office. In fact I have lots of stories that belong in a shrink's office :)

Jeeezzz that is all just - wow. People. -.-'
 
I worked at PetSmart years ago and I feel like I could give a story for every day
Of course there was the daily customer wanting to by an oranda that requires atleast a 20 gallon tank for 1 fish wanting to put it in a gallon bowl. I don't know why fish stores even sell bowls they aren't suitable for any living animal other than a snail.
Had another lady who came in with a dead angel fish, petsmart has a 14 day guarantee on their fish and will replace it if you bring the body back.
I tried asking her some questions to figure out what happened and she didn't really want to talk. She can't back a few days later with the two angel fish she had just bought and told me we had crappy fish and I was seeking her bad fish. So isn't her how big her tank was and what other fish she had and I can't remember exactly what she said (this was like 10 years ago) but it was bad to small tank wrong fish and I told her that if she keeps putting angel fish in that tank doesn't matter they're going to die. She got all huffy and Said, just give me my fish and asked for the manager, my manager who was just a corporate slob knew nothing about fish and said just give her her fish. She was back a few days later with another bag of dead angel fish, she didn't come back to where I was just went straight to the manager and he came and scooped her up more fish and I grumpy rolled my eyes.
Another time 3 teenager kids came in. They were adamant they needed a pleco for their 10 gallon tank. I explained to them that common plecos can get to up to two feet and they said yeah but they'll only grow to the size of their tank. And I said yes then they'll die as their organs are compacted. And the kid said, well that's ok, I just need it to clean and once it does I'll just get another.:( I had someone else help them as I didn't want to be an accomplice in the plecos death home.
As much as I liked that job I hated that as a corporate retailer PetSmart's first priority is making money and their dead last priority is making sure the fish go to proper homes. They don't care one bit.
If one can find a local shop where they take good care of there fish and prioritize putting them in suitable homes over making money off you.!
 
There was a young guy that worked at one of my local franchise stores, between him and his dad they had a dozen tanks and over 200 fish. Was very knowledgeable and loved the hobby, but he hated the care guides from petsmart that he had to follow - as he knew a lot of their stocking combinations and tank setups were wrong with the fish on multiple lvl's. He complained about it to me for a bit but there's nothing he is allowed to do about it, it's his job after all. His biggest complaint was the holding tank for donated/returned fish (after a QT period and water testing), as they only had the 1 tank for them be housed in for sale and it was just a hodge-podge of different fish (company policy, he couldn't add them into more appropriate tanks after the QT period).
Yup. We reffered to the Quarantine tank in the back as the " death tank"
What they don't tell customers is that once a fish is brought back it's rarely ever returned to the sales floor, mainly because those fish normally die, whether they were sick when they went in they will be sick when they do. We had 2 tanks a " community" and an " aggressive semi aggressive" in the back,they were both just a total hodge poge of misfit fish waiting to die. :(
 
I never worked in a fish store but I had a really annoying experience at Petco once.
I had finished cycling my 29 gallon and I had very low stocking. Just some cories and a single mystery snail (they had been there for almost a month so I wanted to get more snails and fish since everything was going well). I went to Petco and asked an employee for a blue Mystery snail. The employee asked about tank size and stocking so I told her. She proceeded to tell me I could under no circumstances get another mystery snail because it would overcrowd my tank. I tried to politely explain that a second mystery snail would not overstock my tank but of course the employee wouldn't listen because I'm just a kid. She told me that she couldn't stop me from getting the snail but she highly advised against it. Of course, I knew a second mystery snail would not hurt my tank but I was pretty nervous since I didn't want to be rude so I thanked her, left the store, went to Petsmart, and got a second mystery snail. That snail is still alive today and healthy :)
 
Jeeezzz that is all just - wow. People. -.-'
It's not too bad, I spent 20 years in the industry so only a few people caused problems. Most of my customers became followers and would stop going to my old place of work and follow me to my new place (if I changed job). This upset a number of bosses who said I took half their customers with me when I left. :)

I also had a number of bosses that got concerned with me because I spent too much time talking to customers. However, when they realised the customers were coming back every week to see me because I had helped them solve their fish problems, the bosses were happy. Happy customers meant more sales and those customers brought their friends and family in to buy more tanks and more fish. :)

There were times when having too many customers was an issue. Sometimes there would be a queue of people waiting to talk to me and I would be chatting to customers all day and get no other work done. It got to a point where I was telling people I would be an hour or more before I could talk to them and they said "that's fine, we will wait". I usually suggested they talk to one of the other staff if it was something simple, but most waited for me.

The number of late nights on weekends when we had a shop full of people waiting to ask questions after we had closed was annoying. The forum is easier, I can turn the pc off and walk away :)
 

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