What Are Some Tank Mates For Ocellaris Clownfish? And Other Q'S

[WhatTheJack]

Are there any companians for Ocellaris Clownfish in a 24 gallon tank?
And how many fish can I keep in there?
I think the tank is too small for coral, am I right?
I'm thinking of starting one.
Here is a pic of the model of the tank I found on the net:

 

[-Nemo-]

You could probably have 2 or 3 additional fish with the clowns.
That's not too small for coral! You could keep many coral in there (dependent on lighting)

 

[WhatTheJack]

You could probably have 2 or 3 additional fish with the clowns.
That's not too small for coral! You could keep many coral in there (dependent on lighting)

Thanks

Which type of fish are you talking about when you say two or three?
How many fish can I have altogether?
Which coral are you talking about?

The lights are 2 x 18W PL lamps

 

[-Nemo-]

Amount of fish depends partially on size. Gobies and blennies will be good, reef safe wrasses (like fairy, carpenter's, flaster, six line etc.) Hawkfish too are awesome little dudes.

What does PL stand for?

 

[WhatTheJack]

Amount of fish depends partially on size. Gobies and blennies will be good, reef safe wrasses (like fairy, carpenter's, flaster, six line etc.) Hawkfish too are awesome little dudes.

What does PL stand for?

PL lights are lights that are specialised to make things grow. Since it's my first saltwater tank, I might not get any corals and focus on fish.
Do you think this is a good collection:

1 OCELLARIS clown
1 black Ocellaris clown
1 Bicolor Pseudochromis
1 Six Line Wrasse
1 Firefish
1 more something else (maybe chromis)

Will they all eat pellets (high quality)? The pellets areNew Life Spectrum ones.
THX

 

[-Nemo-]

I would only stick with those 5 fish.

On a seperate note, putting black and regular Ocell. Clowns can be quite risky. I've heard of it being done successfully more than once, but regardless it's an experiment. You need to be aware that it may not work out and one of them may have to be returned.

Also, rather than a Bicolor Pseudochromis, I'd go with a Royal Gramma. They look nearly identical, and royal grammas are a bit more tolerable to other fish.

Other than that, they will all be well together, and yes they should eat pellets. You should also consider feeding other foods as well, however. Frozen foods (Mysis Shrimp, Formula 1, Formula 2 etc.) are excellent for their health and a variety of diet in general is much better.


I am not familiar with PL lights, so i'm not sure how well they would do with corals, but a good starting for hardy soft corals would be power compacts. 2x 55/65 watt PC lights would be great for starting out

 

[WhatTheJack]

I would only stick with those 5 fish.

I am not familiar with PL lights, so i'm not sure how well they would do with corals, but a good starting for hardy soft corals would be power compacts. 2x 55/65 watt PC lights would be great for starting out

Thanks a lot!

Final Choice:
1 regular ocellaris clown
1 Royal Gramma
1 six line wrasse
1 bicolor chromis
1 Firefish

OR

2 regular ocellaris clown
1 Royal Gramma
1 six line wrasse
1 bicolor chromis

OR

2 regular ocellaris clown
1 Royal Gramma
1 six line wrasse
1 Firefish

And maybe one bubble coral, done!

 

[-Nemo-]

I would only stick with those 5 fish.

I am not familiar with PL lights, so i'm not sure how well they would do with corals, but a good starting for hardy soft corals would be power compacts. 2x 55/65 watt PC lights would be great for starting out

Thanks a lot!

Final Choice:
1 regular ocellaris clown
1 Royal Gramma
1 six line wrasse
1 bicolor chromis
1 Firefish

OR

2 regular ocellaris clown
1 Royal Gramma
1 six line wrasse
1 bicolor chromis

OR

2 regular ocellaris clown
1 Royal Gramma
1 six line wrasse
1 Firefish

And maybe one bubble coral, done!

I personally find the interaction between male and female clowns so interesting, so I would suggest the second of third selections. Otherwise your choices look good to me

 

[Morri]

That tank looks like an AquaOne tank I would be tempted to look at there new marine tank range or one of the more marine specfic tanks like the Orca D&d etc. these will give you most of what you need in a tidy package. I picked mine up second hand with all the LR I needed saved me a lot of money.

Is that 24Gallons US or UK?

Also i would reaserch the sixline wrasse these are known to be very aggresive I would be tempted to look at a Blenny or a Goby instead these are both good character fish and add a lot to a tank. If it is a wrasse you want consider Flashers or Pink streaked wrasse.

If you are looking at stocking 5 fish in there you will need a skimmer for sure.

As far as Corals go the lights supplied might be ok for a few softies if you go for a Marine specfic tank you would be able to keep the LPS and possibly even SPS depending on the tank you chose.

 

[-Nemo-]

That tank looks like an AquaOne tank I would be tempted to look at there new marine tank range or one of the more marine specfic tanks like the Orca D&d etc. these will give you most of what you need in a tidy package. I picked mine up second hand with all the LR I needed saved me a lot of money.

Is that 24Gallons US or UK?

Also i would reaserch the sixline wrasse these are known to be very aggresive I would be tempted to look at a Blenny or a Goby instead these are both good character fish and add a lot to a tank. If it is a wrasse you want consider Flashers or Pink streaked wrasse.

I wouldn't forget about a sixline so quickly. As with any fish, the personality varies by individual. I find that the majority of six lines are quite fine, I do, however, have one which is on the more aggressive side. He did not bother anything added previous to himself, but he will go after small fish and shrimp; there is an exception with him though. In the past few months I was able to add a barely inch long hawkfish and a cleaner shrimp. He bothered them for about 3 days, but I picked both because they had attitudes and now he just ignores their existence altogether.

If you are worried, however, simply add him last. I think he's far worth it, they are wonderful fish, very active swimmers. (plus he ate all my icky bristle and flatworms ).

 

[WhatTheJack]

That tank looks like an AquaOne tank I would be tempted to look at there new marine tank range or one of the more marine specfic tanks like the Orca D&d etc. these will give you most of what you need in a tidy package. I picked mine up second hand with all the LR I needed saved me a lot of money.

But When I had a look at them and other brand's marine packages (e.g. RED SEA MAX), how come they are so expensive?

 

[seffieuk]

In my opinion the RSM is a total rip off. You can do a better, cheaper package yourself using a 125/180 rio or the like tank. A skimmer, according to funds, the cheap boyu one is fine to start with or if you have more funds the deltec mce 300 and powerheads, Koralias are good and a decent price. Just ensure the tank has t5 lights and you have yourself a basic start-up package.

The orca 550 and the D & D 24/28 g are both great tanks to start with but don't be tempted to go smaller, you will regret it within about two weeks! Also, look for a secondhand bargain, just ensure no meds/copper have been used.

You can buy most things second hand, except imo the heater and magnet cleaner

Seffie x

 

[Morri]

RSM have a place in the market but they are very over priced for what you get in my opinion.

The ORCA and D&D are both good offerings there are a lot of people that convert tropicals to marines and they look good the issue with marines are skimmers etc which need a bit more space so you end up cutting hoods etc on a new tank this can be grating, I know I would`nt like cutting a new tank hood up.

And like steffie says 130L is the smallest I would start with if I started over again I wish it was a 400L as I need to have that conversation with SWMBO about a bigger tank

 

[Morri]

I should justify the bigger tank statement sorry, Basicaly I have seen numerous fish I like but cannot keep in a small tank my personal favorite Anthias cannot be kept in a small tank and the other fish that people like are Tangs which also cannot be kept in the smaller tanks even though some LFS still sell them to people with small tanks

But there are still lots of stunning fish that can be kept in a 130L tank

 

[seffieuk]

the issue with marines are skimmers etc which need a bit more space so you end up cutting hoods etc on a new tank this can be grating, I know I would`nt like cutting a new tank hood up.

who are you kidding, you would be the first of us to cut a blooming big hole in the lid With the juwel tanks its just a hole in a flap, so not so

Seffie x