Weaning

K.J.

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I know there's a topic right below this, but I have a slightly different question. I'm fostering a mother cat and her four kittens, the kittens are 3 weeks old today and I can tell the milk teeth are coming in. They're supposed to start weaning in a few weeks, right? How do I get them used to can food? Do they just find it when the mother is eating it? Somehow I bet they won't, the mom eats it all in about two minutes though maybe they'll start to get interactive. Or do I spoon feed it to them? They don't lap milk (should I teach them to lap milk in addition to nipple feeding?)
 
Well, I'm pretty sure cats (and young kittens especially) aren't really supposed to have cows milk to begin with

From what I remember, you just put the food out and put them next to it. They will climb into it and get themselves filthy lol. This may take a few times until they realize it tastes good :)

You can put the momma cat in another room so she doesn't steal it all

I think they wean between 6-8 weeks. More towards 8 if I remember correctly
 
Well, I'm pretty sure cats (and young kittens especially) aren't really supposed to have cows milk to begin with

From what I remember, you just put the food out and put them next to it. They will climb into it and get themselves filthy lol. This may take a few times until they realize it tastes good :)

You can put the momma cat in another room so she doesn't steal it all

I think they wean between 6-8 weeks. More towards 8 if I remember correctly

You know, I still call it milk eventhough I know it's KMR. Just a force of habit. Though it is true, cow's milk isn't great for kittens and many cats are actually lactose intolerant. You can use is as a temporary solution if you throw an egg yolk in it. A better option, according to the literatue is goat's milk. But this is for another topic entirely.

You can begin the weaning process as soon as the teeth have come in. I waited until 4 weeks, when I could easily see and feel teeth. I did teach my kittens lapping first, though only about half really got the technique well. The rest kind of/sort of decided that they hated KMR and went straight to licking, or more accurately sucking food away from my fingers. So, I was the one who got messy, not them. To make it a bit easier, I stirred the canned food to make it more smushy, like a thick gruel. It is surprising how much energy it takes to eat solid food, especially when you're used to sucking. Some also took to having it given to them with a spoon, that worked well. One super stubborn kitten had to have it literally stuffed into his mouth at first. But if you read the other thread, you would have heard that story already.

I don't really just like leaving the food and letting them find it. You can have problems with the smaller kittens not getting enough food. I gave each of them their portion in a separate bowl and supervised the feeding to make sure there were no thieves. A little much probably, but everybody got their fair share. I never left them alone with food (once they get the hang of it, they eat in less than 10 minutes, at least mine do, and canned food gets bad pretty quickly).

I also never put the food near where the litter box is. Kittens are often messy with the litter box (they are getting the hang of things) and contaminated litter can be strewn everywhere (depsite frequent cleanings). If this becomes present in the food and the kittens eat it, or if they lick it off their own fur, they can develop coccidia and other lovely diseases. They have fragile little tummies. So solve that problem, I have them in a spare bathroom with a roman tub. The kittens ate outside the tub, inside of which was the litter box, and then were placed back inside when finished, so they could do their business.

I probably, however, really overdid it in the precaution department.

Now that the teeth are completely settled in and stronger, I am working with them on hard food aka kibble. I want them to be adaptable when they are adopted. Some owners feed canned, some kibble, some a combination. I think it's important that the kitten should be exposed with all three methods so that whatever their new owner springs on them won't hurt them.
 
Yeah, honestly I don't see how that method would work (finding the mom's food) for these reasons: A.) The mom can down a spoonful in less than 30 seconds, B.) She never leaves any, and C.) Don't they need kitten formula? So you figure I should teach them to lap? How do I go about doing that? They have sharp, little teeth the buggers.
 
Yeah, honestly I don't see how that method would work (finding the mom's food) for these reasons: A.) The mom can down a spoonful in less than 30 seconds, B.) She never leaves any, and C.) Don't they need kitten formula? So you figure I should teach them to lap? How do I go about doing that? They have sharp, little teeth the buggers.

The question is, are they still sucking and eating formula without complaint? If the answer is yes, then save yourself the trouble and continue to bottle feed. I had to wean mine earlier because they really started to reject the KMR, and I was concerned for their health. Now, that doesn't mean you can't introduce them to canned food. But go at a more relaxed pace. Have them nibble it from your fingers. Dissolve a bit into the formula so they get used to the taste. Give them very small portions of stirred food, etc. The key, I think, is to not overwhelm them at first. They tire very quickly and really adapt best to new things when you make it as easy as possible. Increase the amount of feedings at first to make sure they are getting enough food, while reducing the portion.

For lapping, I used condiment containers. I particularly loved the ones you got from Chilis or Bennigans. I'm totally serious. They are the perfect size and tolerate light nuking and toaster oven abuse. I filled thes containers about half-way with formula. Then I picked up the kitten, set it on my lap, and guided its head to the container. If the kitten is smart, they'll snort a few times (you may have to clean up their face, I had one kitten stick his whole face in, sillly boy) and then they'll try lapping. Sometimes, it also helps to put some formula on your finger and let them sip. A small, shallow saucer would also work very well, probably better, but it is harder to guard against spills, though the kitten's faces get less dirty. Espresso cup saucers are great option.

Good luck.

llj
 
Well they actually have a mother, she's feeding them fine but I don't know exactly how they'll get canned food. I don't know if you thought they were fosters? I'll just try to give them some from my fingers when they get a bit older, thanks. :nod:
 
Well they actually have a mother, she's feeding them fine but I don't know exactly how they'll get canned food. I don't know if you thought they were fosters? I'll just try to give them some from my fingers when they get a bit older, thanks. :nod:

I forgot they had their mother. :rolleyes: A bit hard to milk a cat isn't it? :lol: She would probably protest considerably. Then of course your reference to milk was entirely appropriate, and other people were making assumptions, as I did. I apologize. There are so many kitten threads floating about, that I'm getting pretty confused. :lol:

You could still try and teach them lapping by using a supplement formula, but I really wouldn't bother if they are still feeding well from the mother. You can also teach them to lap with water, which they should learn how to drink anyways. Or, you could just work on getting them used to the solid food. Present them some heavily stirred canned food on your finger tips and let them lick it up. You may have to introduce them to the food separately from the mother. What are you feeding the mother? Out of curiousity?

llj
 
I think that's what I'm going to do. How exactly can I get them to drink water? They're so prissy, the last incident with water was one accidentally sticking his head in it. :rolleyes: The mom is fed on Fancy Feast dry and canned food, I don't know if there's a better brand but that's what we feed all our cats. I'll try the finger method. They're a little over three weeks old, though most of them have enough milk teeth to eat pureed stuff. Will it cause them to have diarrhea if I try it too soon?
 
I think that's what I'm going to do. How exactly can I get them to drink water? They're so prissy, the last incident with water was one accidentally sticking his head in it. :rolleyes: The mom is fed on Fancy Feast dry and canned food, I don't know if there's a better brand but that's what we feed all our cats. I'll try the finger method. They're a little over three weeks old, though most of them have enough milk teeth to eat pureed stuff. Will it cause them to have diarrhea if I try it too soon?

I'd at least make sure you're on a formula specifically for kittens. The mother should be on it too. She consumes a lot of energy when she's lactating and the kitten food has a lot more nutrients and calories. Forget this if you are already doing this. I currently use Authority brand kitten food, which you can buy at PetsMart. It doesn't cost much more than Fancy feast, and as far as I know, it wasn't recalled, as it doesn't have any wheat gluten as an ingredient. The first ingredient is chicken. Mine made some pretty interesting deposits after I switched, but I had to switch some of them too quickly as they were rejecting the KMR. Be warned, it gets pretty stinky. :sick:

Water is trial and error. They'll make messes, mine still do. Just make sure it's changed quite often and if they step in it, change it again.
 
I bottle fed 7 orphaned newborn kittens, some did not make it due to... well they were just brand new without mothers, a couple got pnuemonia as well... 3 survived though and I bottle fed them up to 8 weeks, at about 6 1/2-7 weeks I started putting some wet canned food on my fingers and letting them smell it and lick it, and eventually giving them less and less of a bottle until they just ate cat food all together.
 
I'll get some kitten food next time I get to the store. How long will it be until they'll be able to eat dry kibble?

EDIT: I'm teaching them to drink water, but I don't even quite know how. All I really do is stick their mouth in the water and massage their throat to swallow it, though I don't know if this would work. Maybe mixing up a diluted water/KMR mix?
 
ok, see, in my mind? it shouldn't be this much work on your part to raise the kittens provided that their mother is still taking care of them. you may actually be rushing them, KJ, which there's no real point in doing so long as the mother hasn't rejected them and you don't have a deadline on getting them out of the house.
 
The problem is, I'm not sure if there "is" a deadline. I probably am rushing them, I just don't really know what to do right now. I imagine the shelter wants them before they get unappealing to the public, although I have to argue, but it's not my job to say when the kittens will be ready to sell.
 
kittens really shouldn't be separated from their mother until 8 wks at the earliest. 12 weeks is better, but that's a bit old. they won't start really playing until 6 weeks anyways, so there shouldn't be any rush to get them to the rescue before 5 weeks.

but what you should do is just call the rescue and see when they want them. :thumbs:
 

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