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svirid

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Good day,

my 28 gal tank water temperature is 82-84F and I cant drop it any lower,
ice does not help, and for sure I cant put ice every couple of hours I am at work.

Tank cycle is almost done but I am worried about the temperature. Is there
a way I can successfully keep my tank with the temp this high? or everything will die eventually
anyway? and I just have to by chiller?

I am think to get one for summer time for sure, but what about now? I was ready to start buying

Thank you for your help guys.
 
Hey svirid!

Well, I guess the good news here is that what you are experiencing is a very common problem for a lot of us. The other good news here is that 84 degrees (F) is not completely deadly for most livestock - but obviously not ideal.

Anyways, it might help to know a little bit more about your situation...such as:

What type of thermometer(s) are you using to keep track of the water temp?
--- The reason I ask this is because I found it a bit odd that you cannot lower your water temp, even if you place ice in the water since this should make at least some impact if used in sufficient amounts...so I am wondering if you are using one or more of those 'stick-on' thermometers that you place outside of the tank because they are notoriously inaccurate and are really only measuring the temp of glass versus the water itself; hence, the temp of the room may be throwing you off.

Where is your thermometer(s) located in and/or on the tank?
-- Again, since the ice didn't help you at all, I am wondering if your thermometer is only measuring the very top of the tank and/or is under a light which could be warming the thermometer itself. Personally, I would always suggest using multiple thermometers, located in a few spots throughout the tank in order to garner the most accurate water temp overall.

Are you using a heater on this tank?
-- Yes, I completely realize that this might sound like a dumb question since it would seem like common sense to turn the heater down in your tank to lower the water temp, however, I also realize that many hobbyists, including myself, use a heater set to kick on to prevent the water from becoming too cold. That being said, if you do the same thing, it may be worthwhile to ensure that the heater is set correctly and/or is operating correctly.

Please don't misunderstand me though....I am not trying to suggest that your water temp is high because of something you have or haven't done, nor due to an equipment defect since this can happen even under the more perfect conditions, in which case a chiller may be the best thing for you. Obviously, while it can happen to anyone, it makes a lot of sense to say that smaller tanks are probably more problematic in this regard simply because there is less water to warm or chill, so this is again, very common. In fact, my first saltwater tank was a 90 gallon and even though I set it up in the winter, I also struggled with some water temp problems, which were compounded as summer approached - however, now that I have a 125 gallon tank, even though I am using the exact same equipment I had used on the 90 gal - even adding Mh lighting which I did not have before, my heater is almost always needed to maintain 78 degrees or so rather than only kicking on when the water temp drops like it used to. So, just in the addition of about 30 more gallons of water, my temperature issue became extinct.
 
Thanks for the useful information.

I started from 28 gal and I definitely cannot change it now to a bigger one.
So I would have to deal with this one.
I have 2 thermometers ones it outside one and one is inside. Both of them located
at the bottom in different sides.

Outside one shows 82-82 most of a time inside - 84.

I was thinking maybe it because of the pumps? I have 3 of them. 2 for water movement
and 2 for a hang-on skimmer.
Should I maybe remove one for water movement?
What do u think?
 
Are you using a canopy? Are you using a glass-top? Are there any fans pointed at the surface?
 
Yes I have a glass top, no fans installed.
I was removing glass top for a couple of days - no change in water temp :-(
 
try to keep it below 85 and above... 78-79, that is if you have normal tropical things.... I would say fan
 
I agree with the fan idea...it really does work relatively well. Since I do not a water temp issue in my 125 gallon tank, I don't really need a fan, however, I have them set up and ready to help me out on the hottest summer days. Basically, I have found that the best approach to fans is to direct the air flow between the water's surface and the lighting. I have also found that even though it may seem extremely logical to 'aim' your fan so that it blows directly over the water, it is also beneficial to place a fan in the opposite direction - meaning not blowing directly over the tank - because this will help 'pull' air over the tank, and/or help your other fans be more effective.

However, the use of fans as is being suggested does have drawbacks - perhaps the largest one being that the fan(s) also help speed up evaporation - so be prepared to adapt a little bit.
 
Yup, pull the glass top and get some fans on there :). Evap rate will go up, but the temp will go way down with the addition of fans
 
rip off, you can get a silent 4" fan for 5 bucks at target or walmart
 
Yup, pull the glass top and get some fans on there

Like I said, I totally agree with this advice -- but wanted to add that if you are like me and keep fish which are prone to jumping out of the tank and hence, need to keep the tops on my tank, you can get around this by having the fans blow across/into a sump...although, unless I missed something, it doesn't sound as though you have a sump, in which case, I suggest trading in the glass tops for an acrylic version and drill a series of small holes (probably as many as possible) in it since this may prove to be helpful for getting at least some airflow over/into the water. Additionally, if you cannot or do not want to spend more money than you have to, I have found acrylic sheets at my local hardware store (Home Depot to be exact), which was reasonably priced and allowed me to make custom tops...I simply cut it with a circular saw and/or a jig saw and then drilled the holes I am suggesting here.

rip off, you can get a silent 4" fan for 5 bucks at target or Wal-Mart

I agree, and also use some of those 'clip-on' fans from Wal-Mart....probably spending less than 20 or 30 dollars (US) for four of them.
 

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