Want to help me piece together a 30 gallon?

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Hello, I'm loving my 10 gallon so much that I'm interested in putting together a 30 gallon. I've been considering Angelfish, Discus, Pseudotropheus zebra, possibly some danios or Lemmon Chchlids. I may add some cories/snail as time passes to deal with worms or algae and such.

I'd like some colorful gravel/substrate hopefully baby blue in color mixed with some purple rock in places. I'm thinking of having the tank planted or at least starting off with some nice plastic plants.

I'm thinking a 30 gallon tall would be the best choice but I'm unsure of the filter, heater, thermometer. Any suggestions would be helpful and any ideas the the best place to make the purchases. I live in Canada if that helps.
 
A few things I can offer, to start you off.

You probably won't be able to keep many angels in a 30g tank, once they get full-sized. Angel people can probably give you a better guess, but I'd probably stay with 2, maybe 3 tops.

From everything I've read, discus take a lot of maintenance. Might want to read up on them before diving in.

Most cichlids are aggressive. Ususally, they're kept in 'cichlid-only' tanks, from what I understand.

Cories will not eat algae. They do an excellent job of cleaning up leftover food on the bottom of the tank, though. And, they're fun to watch. :) A good 'cleanup crew' is an important part of a tank, in my opinion.

Filters: Most people do not like UGFs (Under Gravel Filters). I would probably recommend what's called a HOB (Hang On the Back -- of the tank) type of filter. Some popular ones are Penguins and Emperors (made by Marineland) and AquaClears (made by Hagen).

The way filters are 'measured' is usually by their flow rate, in gallons per hour. You divide the gallons per hour rating of the filter, by the total volume of your tank, to get an estimate of how many 'turnovers' you'd get per hour. The recommended number of turnovers is 5 (some aquarists will say up to 10). So, for a 30 gallon tank, to get 5 turnovers an hour, you'd want a filter that is rated at 150 gph. In the case of the two brands listed above, I would suggest a Penguin 170 or an AquaClear 200.

Thermometer: Get a glass thermometer, don't rely on the 'stick-on' plastic type, they're not too reliable. Also, realize that sometimes thermometers are 'off', so it helps to check it with one that you know is correct. For instance, I know that in one of my tanks, when the thermometer reads '80', it's really 78 degrees. Glass thermometers, with a suction cup to attach them to the tank, are usually only about $2 US.

Heater: The usual rule of thumb is '5 watts of heating per gallon'. How much heat you'll need does depend on the temperature difference between your tank water and your house (at its coldest), but I think a 150-watt heater should do you fine (that should handle temperature differences up to about 12 C) Also, I personally would recommend a fully submersible heater.

Personally, I like real plants. I think they make a tank so much nicer, and benefit the fish, benefit your water quality, and (important -->) if you pick the correct plants for your situation, they require minimal extra work or cost. Research some easy to grow, low-light requirement plants. Some of these will include java fern, java moss, anubias, hygrophilia polysperma, hornwort, 'crypts', and anacharis.

Substrate (gravel) color is a matter of personal taste, but personally, I find that brightly colored gravel looks odd with plants.

And, lastly, in my opinion, every minute of research you do beforehand is worth many minutes afterward.

Have fun.
 
I have 2 corys in my 10 gallon which are members of my 'clean' up crew along with my snail. The corys were recommended to me for dealing with planarian outbreaks from time to time. Indeed these fish did away with 5000 worms in the matter of a weekend.

Walmart has a 30 gallon (includes lid, aquaclear filter, lights) for $130 cdn. The tank is made by Marineland/Aqua-Tech, I'm wondering if that is a pricy buy?

I've also been looking at various types of gravel and I'm curious what the best type would be for the possible addition of some real plants? I don't plan on having the lights on all the time so plants that don't require too much light would be great.

HOB Filter, 150 watt heater and a glass thermometer is what I was thinking also.
 
:flex: I'm not a big fan of tall tanks because it's harder to get way down there to
clean/vacuum gravel, but also because smaller top surface area provides less
oxygenation of water. You can keep more fish and somewhat easier cleaning with
long tank. Also, with a long tank your HOB filter pickup tube will be closer down
to the gravel, which is where you want it. In a tall tank the tube/strainer will be
too high up and filtration not as effective.
 
The whole purpose behind a tall tank is for the addition of angels which will most likely out grow a 30 gallon long IMO.
 

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