Tanks

[Tempestuousfury]

A few questions:
1.) Guppies in 50 gallon community w/ danios, tetras, and platy fry? Is this ok?
2.) I've read that guppies can be placed in jars as fry to conserve space? Can I do this (or w/ .5 gallon tanks or something like it?) if I add aeration (bubble stones) and daily partial water changes?
3.) Can I mate feeder guppies w/ the ones they sell and get the results I want (want to keep costs down and save a few guppies at the same time )? For example, since female guppies lack color, can I mate a sunrise male guppy w/ a feeder female guppy and get sunrise guppies?

Enough for now...

 

[Mamaschild]

Let's see if I can help.....

1) Yes, guppies will be fine in that tank with those mates.

2) I would not put them in "jars". I assume your talking like a Betta jar? Guppies need heat and filtration. A 5g tank would do, and you can get heaters and pumps that small.

3) Most "Feeder" guppies are just wild guppies. Most of the ones I see here in San Diego are Mexican Guppies. If you really want to get "Fancy" Guppies, you need to breed fancy guppies. Mixing the types will normally lead back to wild type colorations. Also, many LFS's will not take them for trade or anything, because they are not "Pure" fancies. And hopefully you would let them know that, so no one gets mislead......

If you see some wild "feeder" guppies in your LFS that you like the look of, why not raise them? I actually bought some of the feeders from one of my stores ($.10 ea), because the males sort of looked like Endler's, and the females had colored tails. Unfortunately, they did not survive (??) so I never got any fry to see how they would turn out.

HTH

 

[ramesses]

Ok,let's see.....Baby guppies in a jar to conserve space?Well ....of course you can put them in a jar but,chances are none will survive.Baby guppies need space to grow and in a small enclosure like a jar chances are they will not grow too big.
Having wild gups(feeders)mate with a fancy strain is OK too,now your fish will be no better than mediocre,simply 'cause you are taking a very fancy type of gups and breeding it with the wild type,than even tough being attractive,cannot be compare to a fancy strain.The offspring may be smaller,would lack the colors of the fancy parent.You might get a few pretty ones but,unfortunally they have less fancy genes,and even though the parent might be attractive,its babies might be less than what you expected.
About keeping your gups in a 50 gal community tank its OK as long as their mates are non-aggressive.Tetras could be bad sometimes picking on male fancy gups tails,bettas are terrible too.I guess it depends on the strain you have.Wild gups are OK to be kept with some of these more aggressive fish,fancy ones,especially males and their delta tails are definately not.

 

[Tempestuousfury]

I'm planning on turning my ten gallon into a tank for guppy breeding. By the jars I meant one to five fry per jar for the first two weeks so I wouldn't have to buy extra net breeders for the fry. Then I hope to transfer them to an unheated (because the temperature of the five gallon in my room is around 80 without heating and it's pretty constant) bucket with a sponge filter and/or bubble stones. Those that I want to continue breeding with go to the ten gallon while the rest are... not quite sure what to do with them. Either feed them to any fish that will eat them (I probably won't have fish like that when I kill my goldfish), which I don't really want, or give them to an lfs if I can find one that'll take them.

I didn't think the feeder guppies would work... I read a book on guppies today and the part on fish genetics corroborated what you said. However, I'm not sure if the lfs has any female sunrise guppies (cheapest and very pretty) in with the males. How would I get females if they aren't in the tanks with the males?

Thanks

 

[guppymonkey]

I'm planning on turning my ten gallon into a tank for guppy breeding. By the jars I meant one to five fry per jar for the first two weeks so I wouldn't have to buy extra net breeders for the fry. Then I hope to transfer them to an unheated (because the temperature of the five gallon in my room is around 80 without heating and it's pretty constant) bucket with a sponge filter and/or bubble stones. Those that I want to continue breeding with go to the ten gallon while the rest are... not quite sure what to do with them. .

However, I'm not sure if the lfs has any female sunrise guppies (cheapest and very pretty) in with the males. How would I get females if they aren't in the tanks with the males?

Jars won't work for fry, they need constant feedings which ruin the water unless its filtered and they need room to grow. Like all babies, baby guppies grow rapidly, even two weeks in a jar would stunt them if they managed to survive. It would probably be better if they all were just in the main tank with the other fish, they would be at risk of being eaten but they would have more room.

Its hard to find females that go with the males. I had a male sunrise guppy but never could find a female with matching coloration. I think the best way to do it would be to try to find some females with close coloration. Females have less color anyways so it would be impossible to find sunrise females unless you could go to the dealer and get them that way.

 

[Tempestuousfury]

They didn't have the Tequila Sunrise female guppies, so I went with another type (didn't check the name ) so I could get a female and male that looked alike.

I'm planning on making me ten gallon a guppy tank and just leave the fry in there. I'll add Java Fern and/or moss for the fry. I found a store that's take fry taht are about 1/4", so I'll keep the ones that I like and give the others away. It'll be hard to part with them, but as long as they're alive, I guess it's ok.

Thanks