Starting A New Tank

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Hi All,

I have had a tropical tank running for quite a while now but my aim has always been to move from a tropical tank upto the heights of a marine tank.

I thought going via this route would be the best thing to do as I would learn as I go along.

Anyway..... Can anyone here tell me how I can go about changing my tank from a tropical tank to a marine tank, what I will need to do, how much im looking at etc etc

I would really appreciate all your help guys

Thanks
 
read some of the pinned topics. i didnt and i buggered mine up lol :p tho i didnt do it too badly thank god :D
 
Agreed, have a look at the stickies and decide what you want to do. Fish only (FO), fish only with live rock (FOWLR) or reef (corals/sponges/anemone). Also, what size tank is it ;)
 
Basically you need to scrap everything you have and start fresh... Ok the tank is fine (as lnog as you have never treated the tank with a copper based product). The lighting will need changing depending on what you intend to keep. Gravel and sand etc all needs removing.

Any external filters will need to be removed (although you can use them on a marine system its not really needed).

Your next outlay... Well liverock is important as its your filter for the tank. Salt of course.. cant operate a marine system without it.. Test kits.. PH< Ammonia, NItrite and Nitrate as the basic ones. For a base you will want aragonite sand.. this will help keep PH stable. (you can operate other beds but this is probably the best for a beginner).

Powerheads.. You will need to get enough flow through the tank to get a 10x volume turnover per hour as minimum and last but not least a Skimmer.

Hope this is enough to start you off. Im sure you will have many more questions after this.
 
Research, research and research again.

i didn't and wasted so much money ! e.g. don't spend £100+ on Cr%p powersweeps - buy streams !

Undertsand what your limits are now before you invest - 3 foot is very limiting- You can get some fantastic fish for that size, but please don't think that you can get anything you want.

Be sure you can make the switch before you make any changes

Salt is very expensive, but nothing compared to the initial cost of Live rock and lights. You will also need to invest in a good RO unit.

Don't get me wrong, I converted SW and love it, but be sure that you want to (and can do) first.

Listemn to Nav though and read the pins - I didn't and couldn't have have saved some ££££ !

Good luck

Dave
 
Thanks for your help guys, kinda hard trying to get more info when you haven't a clue what people are saying / talking about. I was like that with tropical fish but soon picked it up, guess you learn as you go along like most things.

Anyway.....

Im going to go to my local fish shop tomorrow, is it worth me getting a new tank? Im slightly worried about the lighting because as you all know you need to have more tubes than just the 1 tube I have in my jewell, unless you can buy a new lid with more tubes to do a straight swap?


Also, as said above I will loose all my pebbles etc and get new sand etc etc.. thats not a problem..

What should I do about the pump / filter pads in the right hand section (enclosed) of my jewel tank? is this required for the marine tank or is this all unwanted and can be ripped out / not required ? (pump aswell)

Ok... last but not least, im thinking it might be best if I just go ahead with fish only, is this a problem? Should i get some live rock aswell or not? Im thinking easiest route possible here being a beginner.

When I enter my lfs can you please give me a list of products I will need to get my tank underway. Basically everything to get my nemo swimming lol

Cheers guys
 
Ok, step 1, inspect your seals on your 3' tank. If they're clear or very lightish sky blue you're ok to use that tank. If they're a blue-green kind of like the color of the statue of liberty (excuse the yank here ;)) then dont use it as the seals are contaminated with copper. If seals are not contaminated, proceed to step 3.

Step 2. Get a new tank and stand. The only options you'll want with it are an appropriate sized heater, a hood, and a thermometer. Bigger tanks are more expensive to setup but less expensive to run.

Step 3. Get some new lighting. T8 power compact flourescent will be fine for Fish Only. T5s will be required for soft and large polyp stony LPS corals, and metal halides will be required for small polyp stony SPS corals.

Step 4. Decide on filtration. Standard hang on mechanical filters are not advisable as they become deadly nitrate factories. Your options are live rock only or live rock with a sump. LR only is commonly used for nano tanks (30gal and lower) while sumps are popular in larger tanks where there is ample rooom under the tank stand. Either way, a ratio of 1lb per gallon is reccomended for LR. Spend your money on rock instead of canister filters, you'll be happy you did.

Step 5. Decide on substrate. Most people use sand instead of crushed coral. Crushed coral limits your selections of cleanup crew and fish, so unless you absoloutely HAVE to have that look, avoid crushed coral. Either way, make sure your substrate is aragonite based. Live sand is a waste of money as LR will populate the sand over time.

Step 6. Prepare the tank. Level the stand, apply a pad under the tank, or put some egg crate (found in hardware stores in the drop ceiling area) on the bottom of the inside of the tank to spread the weight of the rocks out evenly. If using one, fit the sump, prepare some power strips, mount your skimmer and uv sterilizer if you choose to use them, and mount your powerheads.

Step 7. Mix salt water in buckets and bring at least one up to temp. Get a hygrometer or refractometer and go for 1.022-1.025 specific gravity.

Step 8. Buy LR and place it in the tank either on glass or egg crate, and fill the area around it with aragonite substrate. Prefferably 1-2" thick for beginners. Then, fill the tank with water and get the heater going.

Step 9. Allow the tank to cycle

Step 10. Add cleanup crew and fish.

Step 11. Stay on top of regular maintenance.

Parts list (by no means comprehensive)
Tank/Stand
Lights
Hood
Heater
Powerheads (20 times turnover in gph)
Substrate
LR
Hygrometer/refractometer
Test kits for saltwater, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, pH required. kH, gH, calcium, phosphate highly reccomended
Marine Sea Salt (get a bucket, you'll need it eventually)
Sump (optional, as described above)
Skimmer (optional for nano, reccomended for larger)
UV sterilizer (optional for all, but reccomended for keeping parasites at bay)
Chiller (if your house gets hot in the summer and you use metal halides, you'll need one eventually ;))

That'll get your mind stirring :). Remember, ALWAYS check Ebay and online stores for hardware prices as they are usually cheaper that way. I found most of my hardware for 30-50% less than what my LFS sells it for online. Ebay rocks for lights :D Tanks, livestock, and food however are usually cheaper at your LFS.
 
I have to disagree with some of the comments on here....sorry, don't mean to be a pain but...
If you do NOT EVER intend to make this a reef tank then you don't have to worry about any residual copper within the tank. Trace amounts of copper will not hurt the fish.
You also don't need to get special lighting for a fish only tank. The fish do not require anything special, just regular fluroscent lights will do fine. You might want to change the bulb(s) though.
Filters can indeed become nitrate factories but only if you don't take the time to regularly clean them.
Live rock is not a "must" when you are going the fish only route.
Crushed coral is fine for a fish only tank but it can limit you on fish choices mainly wrasses which like to bury themselves in the sand and sandsifting gobies. Small worms, copepods, small brittlestars and bristleworms will colonize the cc quite well. Plus you have the added benefit of being able to vacuum the cc when you do water changes.


If you are thinking that later on down the line you will want to go reef then yes, now would be the time to invest in the better lighting, live rock, sand, etc...

HTH :)
 
If you are thinking that later on down the line you will want to go reef then yes, now would be the time to invest in the better lighting, live rock, sand, etc...

Agreed, plan ahead so that you dont waste money :)
 

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