Started But Got It Wrong! :(

Shaun.

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Hi Everyone.

Right bare with me...,

I appreciate this is a big thread but PLEASE read it and try to help me :good:

Myself and my Girlfriend started up our first Marine Coral / Fish set up last April and were initially wrongly advised by a very poor local outlet (Obvious unbeknown to us at the time).

However we bought an Aqua 620 which was recommended at the time by the said store..

http://www.onlineaquariumstore.com/acatalo...0_Aquarium.html

DISCLAIMER:: This link is purely only to show the tank I have NOT the store I bought it from!!!!!!

We spent several hundred pounds on setting up like getting the rock, substrate, coral etc, etc...

We soon came across problems as we were initially told that ordinary tap water would be OK to initially fill the tank (NOT RO water). This led to an increase in algae forming quickly etc, etc..

We have since found a much. much, much better outlet to go to and fell 100% confident in their advice knowledge.

We have learnt so much since first starting up but have come across problems but feel we are comfortable with our knowledge to date. We still have the aqua 620 (Unfortunately) and are having yet more problems. I personally feel that the filtration system, the compact T5 lighting, the fluctuation in temperature and the pure size of the tank is NOT suffice for the needs of that of a marine fish (20 gallons).

We initially had a few fish but unfortunately lost them along with a fair few corals because of lack of knowledge. We have since got this sorted and introduced a Maroon Clown (Which we both LOVE). He has been in the tank for about 4 months with no problem what so ever. However last Saturday we introduced a juvenile Blue tang (Paracanthurus hepatus) last Saturday. All has been fine but However I was looking at the fish today (As you do) and to my horror I noticed that the Maroon Clown has some 'Fin Nip' on his lower fins. I had a good look at the tang and it appears that this also has a SMALL amount of nip.

I have been closely observing the fish throughout the day and from what I have gathered it appears to be the tang that is the more aggressive one. They are not chasing each other around or nothing like that infact they seem really peaceful. Its just every now and then the tang has a little nip at the Clown.

I have done a little reading and it seems quite uncommon for specie of Tang I have to behave in such a way especially when only a juvenile. I was under the impression if anything it would of been the Clown that was territorially!

Will this stop over time / will they sort their differences or could this lead to a fatal incident??!!!

Can anyone give me a little advice or does anyone have any knowledge when it comes to Marine fish. Its quite upsetting to see this as I really love my fish :sad:

I feel my tank is far too small for my hobby and feel really angry at my local store for doing this to me as I saved for soo long to take this hobby up!!!! I feel really let down but I have never wanted to give it up as I just love fish and the corals and all the glorious natural things that come with it :(

I feel its time to get serious and purchase a more suitable set up. I cant afford nor have the space for anything big but just something around the... W 3.5ft x D 1.5ft. I really need some help in regards to what would be suitable for me keep this beautiful hobby going!!

Please help us..

Shaun.
 
if thats in that aqua 620 then thats about 90l which is too small for a maroon clown nevermind any sort of tang.
If they are both in that tank please return them to the fish shop. It will not stop and they will both live unhappy and die young.

You should get a pair of percula clowns and maybe a couple of other small fish like a cardinal or goby. A 3' tank would still be too small to keep a tang imo. You need 75 gallons at least to keep one happy imo
 
I'm really sorry but I was wrongly advised and feel really bad for doing this!!!!!

Ideally what am I looking at to keep 3 - 5 marine fish in any one tank and can anyone recommend a suitable tank to me??

Shaun.
 
That link that you gave me buddy if you count 14 fish from top left to right thats the one I have!?

I appreciate your help Mate.
 
If i were you mate, i would re-home the fellas you have now. Then read up on nano tanks They are tanks below 30 gallons like yours. You can do great things in a nano and there is also some great fish you can have too. looks at these two

[URL="http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=202153"]http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=202153[/URL]

[URL="http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=247592"]http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=247592[/URL]

two of my fave tanks there. The 2nd one the guy has upgraded from a nano now though but it was a stunning tank
 
Yikes, a whole heap of bad advice, hate to hear about that. What are the dimensions of your current tank Shaun?
 
These are the details of the tank...

Aqua One Aquastyle 620 Aquarium technical details
Available Tank colours: Silver, Black, White
Dimensions Tank: 62 W x 52 H x 39 D cm
Water Capacity: 90 L
Lighting: 2 x 18W PL lamps
Powerhead: 750 L/hr
Filtration: 2 x Carbon Cartridge with Filter Wool + 2 x Sponge Pad + Ceramic Noodles
 
I'm not familiar with the tank but the powerhead sounds inadequate to me. You need to try to acheive turning a minimum of 1800ltrs/hr really to get the live rock working properly. so it would be worth investing in something to improve the flow. A Koralia or similar would be ideal.

Also the filter material will contribute to your algae problem unless it's cleaned religiously. If the rock you have is live rock (it probably is by now anyway) then you don't need the filter to run the nitrifying cycle. If you want it to filter floating solids from the water then ensure you wash the wool and sponges out in tap water weekly (this will remove the gunk and kill off the beneficial bacteria) and remove the ceramic noodles completely. The reason for killing of the normally good bacteria is that they will generate nitrates as part of the normal cycle. If it is live rock you have then that is doing all your nitrogen filtration for you so the wool is just to clean the muck from the water.

Cheers
 
Shaun, where do you live? There is probably someone near you that can help!!
The best thing you can do is to take the fish back to the shop you bought them from.
Please don't think that people are having a go at you for this, they just care about the life in their (and your) tank.
 

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