Stand Cost?

[KkAaNnEe]

Anyone know approxiamtely how much it would cost to build a stand, 48 x 18 x 18, in UK pounds

 

[OldMan47]

I have never tried to build one out of UK pounds.
In US dollars, I would build a stand that size for almost any amount between $30 and $200 depending on the variety of wood that I choose to use. These days decent hardwoods like oak or beech can be very expensive to use.

 

[KkAaNnEe]

I have never tried to build one out of UK pounds.
In US dollars, I would build a stand that size for almost any amount between $30 and $200 depending on the variety of wood that I choose to use. These days decent hardwoods like oak or beech can be very expensive to use.

Thanks OldMan47, you've been a great help. Im just weighing up whether to just purchase a cabinet or build one. It would cost me probably between £150-£250 ($250-$415) to buy one, I have looked online at chain stores that sell softwood for sheds etc. link below. Adding it up seems about £75 + bits to build.. The wood below is 2" x 4" so stronger than needed and I would be able to source it cheaper elsewhere..

http/www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=110&storeId=10151&partNumber=320188&c_3=3|cat_14113517|Sawn+Timber|14113526&c_2=2|cat_16849207|Timber+Supplies|14113517&c_1=1|category_root|Building+and+Hardware|16849207

 

[OldMan47]

That material is really not suitable for a stand. "Treated lumber" has been treated with poisons to help it resist termites when used outdoors and in contact with the earth. The most common treatment in the US is one based on arsenic, not something I want to bring into the house, much less into a bedroom. Other treatments use copper compounds in concentrations high enough to be a real threat to most living things. The point to the treatments is to kill or repel those termites after all. They are not a bad deck support material for an outdoor deck, but even there I prefer something like redwood or cedar for insect resistance on any surface I may end up touching with bare hands or feet.
You really do not need anything nearly as heavy as a 2x4 to build a very strong stand if you remember to place all forces on wood under compression instead of merely relying on the bending strength of the wood. The design I highlighted by my build was specifically done with that principle in mind.

 

[KkAaNnEe]

http/www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=110&storeId=10151&partNumber=318124&c_3=3|cat_14113517|Sawn+Timber|14113526&c_2=2|cat_16849207|Timber+Supplies|14113517&c_1=1|category_root|Building+and+Hardware|16849207

Untreated better then^? This is a pack of four, better value. Failing that I will contact my local builders merchants

 

[tenohfive]

Travis Perkins were cheaper than Homebase/B&Q et al when I did similar.

It may also be worth seeing if you can find someone locally who can build you a metal stand - it's easy enough to add a wooden finish to a metal stand.

 

[coldcazzie]

Travis Perkins were cheaper than Homebase/B&Q et al when I did similar.

It may also be worth seeing if you can find someone locally who can build you a metal stand - it's easy enough to add a wooden finish to a metal stand.

Agreed - don't buy from homebase/B&Q, their prices are astronomical! A timber merchant would be better - Arnold Laver sold and cut me a piece of 9mm hardwood ply for £16, a far cry from the £40 per sheet that B&Q were charging (and that's without cutting!)

 

[hunter001]

I always tend to use THIS for framework thats not going to be seen.

Edit: Not sure if that links working as my browser is playing up. Its on B&Q's website diy.com, search for CLS and its the 2400x63x38mm stuff I use. Costs £2.60 a length so should work out much cheaper than the other timber you've seen.

 

[OldMan47]

The 2x3 softwood that you link to is more than strong enough for any reasonable sized stand with a proper design Hunter. That board would be graded as a 2 or better in the US, basically a structural grade of lumber.
I have never seen wood sold in single or 2 board bundles so maybe things are very different in the UK. In the US I would rummage through a bin of lumber and hand pick the pieces that I want for a small project like a tank stand. For huge projects, like building a house, I would select lumber based on the grade stamps. Different grades are obviously different in appearance and are also quite different in their price.
Untreated lumber is definitely a better choice for a stand. The bundle of 4 of the 8 foot 2 inch square timbers looks very expensive to me. I would have to give around $2 to $3 for a comparable single piece of lumber. With the exchange rate today, that would be less than 2 GBP.

 

[KkAaNnEe]

I always tend to use THIS for framework thats not going to be seen.

Edit: Not sure if that links working as my browser is playing up. Its on B&Q's website diy.com, search for CLS and its the 2400x63x38mm stuff I use. Costs £2.60 a length so should work out much cheaper than the other timber you've seen.

Thanks very much for that. Im no good at wood, prices and types, although my DIY skills are ok. Anyway, Im learning. I suppose theres a reason you have to search this online lol there not stupid are they... Unfortunately looks like they are out of stock EVERYWHERE near me!

The 2x3 softwood that you link to is more than strong enough for any reasonable sized stand with a proper design Hunter. That board would be graded as a 2 or better in the US, basically a structural grade of lumber.
I have never seen wood sold in single or 2 board bundles so maybe things are very different in the UK. In the US I would rummage through a bin of lumber and hand pick the pieces that I want for a small project like a tank stand. For huge projects, like building a house, I would select lumber based on the grade stamps. Different grades are obviously different in appearance and are also quite different in their price.
Untreated lumber is definitely a better choice for a stand. The bundle of 4 of the 8 foot 2 inch square timbers looks very expensive to me. I would have to give around $2 to $3 for a comparable single piece of lumber. With the exchange rate today, that would be less than 2 GBP.

I suppose its in packs of 2 and 4 to increase their profits. Unfortunately I live in North/Central London so finding bins of lumber it a task in itself lol. I can try builders merchant, but like I say, prices in this country are what they are, especially in London, what hunter linked is perfect and I will go ahead with this, cheers

 

[hunter001]

The 2x3 softwood that you link to is more than strong enough for any reasonable sized stand with a proper design Hunter. That board would be graded as a 2 or better in the US, basically a structural grade of lumber.
I have never seen wood sold in single or 2 board bundles so maybe things are very different in the UK. In the US I would rummage through a bin of lumber and hand pick the pieces that I want for a small project like a tank stand. For huge projects, like building a house, I would select lumber based on the grade stamps. Different grades are obviously different in appearance and are also quite different in their price.
Untreated lumber is definitely a better choice for a stand. The bundle of 4 of the 8 foot 2 inch square timbers looks very expensive to me. I would have to give around $2 to $3 for a comparable single piece of lumber. With the exchange rate today, that would be less than 2 GBP.

You quite right with the strutural grade, these are generally the ones used for partition walls in the U.K so more than strong enough for a tank stand. I use it for anything and everything. I built my 4ft bow fronted tank stand from them and the thing is solid, all its held together with is woodglue and dowels as well.

KkAaNnEe: If you have a wickes located near you they do the same sort of sized timber for £2.58 on there site its listed as 'studwork timber' although i seem to remeber the finish being a bit rougher than the B&Q stuff. Not that it really matters, i just prefer it from B&Q. That could have something to do with it being a 5 min walk round the corner as well though. One thing i will say is the B&Q stock checker is not the best. You might be best to just pop into the store and see what theyve got.

Edit: I can confirm for you its a pile of rubbish due to the fact it says the one round the corner from me has no stock, i know for a fact they have a huge pallet of it in. So as i say its best to go instore and ask for the size of CLS you want. Maybe its just got a different barcode as the stuff instore is a different supplier, anyway i hope that helps.

 

[KkAaNnEe]

The 2x3 softwood that you link to is more than strong enough for any reasonable sized stand with a proper design Hunter. That board would be graded as a 2 or better in the US, basically a structural grade of lumber.
I have never seen wood sold in single or 2 board bundles so maybe things are very different in the UK. In the US I would rummage through a bin of lumber and hand pick the pieces that I want for a small project like a tank stand. For huge projects, like building a house, I would select lumber based on the grade stamps. Different grades are obviously different in appearance and are also quite different in their price.
Untreated lumber is definitely a better choice for a stand. The bundle of 4 of the 8 foot 2 inch square timbers looks very expensive to me. I would have to give around $2 to $3 for a comparable single piece of lumber. With the exchange rate today, that would be less than 2 GBP.

You quite right with the strutural grade, these are generally the ones used for partition walls in the U.K so more than strong enough for a tank stand. I use it for anything and everything. I built my 4ft bow fronted tank stand from them and the thing is solid, all its held together with is woodglue and dowels as well.

KkAaNnEe: If you have a wickes located near you they do the same sort of sized timber for £2.58 on there site its listed as 'studwork timber' although i seem to remeber the finish being a bit rougher than the B&Q stuff. Not that it really matters, i just prefer it from B&Q. That could have something to do with it being a 5 min walk round the corner as well though. One thing i will say is the B&Q stock checker is not the best. You might be best to just pop into the store and see what theyve got.

Edit: I can confirm for you its a pile of rubbish due to the fact it says the one round the corner from me has no stock, i know for a fact they have a huge pallet of it in. So as i say its best to go instore and ask for the size of CLS you want. Maybe its just got a different barcode as the stuff instore is a different supplier, anyway i hope that helps.

Haha, I know what you mean about stock checkers. Yer there is a Wickes pretty much same distance as B&Q and Homebase, they all seem to conregate in the same area lol. Will check it out, thanks again