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spawn or not?

lvlyldyuk

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Hi

i have been trying for ages to get any of my bettas to breed.
i think the ones i am trying at the moment have, although i have not seen them doing it so to speak, there is a lovely nest and the male hardly ever strays from beneath it.
does this mean there will be baby bettas in the nest or not?
should i remove the females?

your help will be most appreciated
many thanx
aggy
 
If your interested in breeding bettas here is what you'll need.

So you want to breed bettas. But first, you have to learn the Heimlich maneuver. If you don’t know the Heimlich maneuver, don’t worry, you are going to become a top expert within the next few months. But in a few words, this is how it works:

Your local fish store salesman stands behind you, gets you in a death grip by wrapping both his greedy arms around your submissive, frail body and *HUH* squeezes all the dough right out of you. You will come out of this experience a little light headed and light walleted too ;). Cleansed.

I guess what I am trying to say is that if you want to breed bettas or keep tropical fish for that matter, you must be prepared to spend some serious dough. Hence, if you don’t have any money, you should reconsider. OK. Last call for the poor and the stingy. Bettas have no time for you :). They are royal creatures that will not condescend to be offered anything less than the very best.

Still with us? OK, here is the shopping list. On your marks? Set? GOOOOOOOOO!

The following shopping list and “must have” list is the BARE minimum you will need to spawn one pair of bettas. I have put some approximate prices just to give you a rough idea of what you are getting into :). These prices will vary greatly depending on where you live and who you buy the stuff from.




The breeding pair:
1)- One pair of younger bettas from a good breeder. Pick a strain easy to work with and not too expensive to start with. $20 to $30 for the bettas and $20 for Express mail shipping costs. Please do not try to save a few bucks by having your pair priority mailed. Priority mail is not guarantied to not go in the unpressurized cargo area of the planes. Many bettas shipped priority mail have EXPLODED while on the planes!!! Please don’t jeopardize your bettas lives and spend the extra $10 to get them there safely.

2)- Two one gallon glass jars to house each of your bettas. $15

3)- Water conditioners and additives as follow: Amquel ($9) Novaqua ($9) Aquarisol ($3) PH down—in most cases—($4) aquarium salt ($5)

4)- First aid must have medications: Maroxy ($3), Methylene Blue ($5), Tetracycline and a few other antibiotics ($5 each)

5)- Food to feed the little critters: freeze dried brine shrimp ($10), or frozen foods or live brown worms ($1 a portion—you will need many portions over the next months)

6)- Two fish nets ($2 each)

Subtotal = $130

The spawning tank:
1)- 10 gal or 5 gal spawning tank (same price $20 with cover and light)

2)- Mini penplax corner filter ($5)

3)- Small airpump to run the above filter ($10)

4)- Tubing and valve for above ($4)

5)- SUBMERSIBLE (and submersible only) heater 25W to 50W no more or you will cook you fish! ($15)

6)- One stirofoam cup (free… Woaw that’s a new concept!)

7)- One piece of scotch tape

8)- One chimney glass (from your local hardware store) ($4)

9)- One or two very thick bushy plastic plants ($6 each)

10)- a pack of small plant weights ($3)

11)- a mini tank cleaner (vacuum) ($7)

Subtotal = $74

The fry related purchases:
1)- One microworm cultureto be purchased about 3 weeks before attempting the spawning. ($10)

2)- Brine shrimp eggs ($6) extra valve and T connector to send some of your air pump’s air to the brine shrimp’s hatchery. ($1). Also a 1/2 gal jar with lid to hatch the shrimp in ($1.50)

3)- About 50 to 100 jars for the males to be jarred when they grow and start fighting ($1 each)

4)- preferably another larger tank (40 gal) to move them to when they grow, with cover, light, filter, plants and heater (used $100)

Subtotal = $171.00






GRAND TOTAL you will be coughing up after the Heimlich maneuver :):

About $380.00

Aoutch.

This initial investment is the bare minimum to spawn one pair of bettas, that is of course if you want the pair and their fry to live. If you don’t care if they live or not, then you could cut the cost down. (Boooooooo!).

In all honesty, trying to skip any of the above items will probably cause you to fail in your endeavor. If you try to keep 200 fry in a 5 gal or a 10 gal, they will die of bacterial disease or nitrite poisoning. You must provide them with ROOM to grow and survive. Remember: Bettas may lay as many as 500 eggs! Hence the need for a grow out tank and many jars.

Hmmmm… You look pale. Are you OK? :))))

Ah, what the heck, it is only money, and believe me, the enjoyment you will get out of breeding bettas is well worth it.

Have fun shopping, and don’t let that fish store salesman anywhere behind your back!!! Face him at all time! (hehehe I can already picture you walking backwards out of the store!! LOL)

And you'll need young bettas, not from a pet store but from a breeder. Because pet store bettas are already at least a year old and they don't make viagra for fish, yet. :rofl:
 
Woah wait, you put more than one female in the tank at one time with a male? :blink: Mm, maybe you need to do your research better.

Yes, take the females out of the tank. Condition one pair and do a bit more research.
 
thanx for info, have been keeping fish for many years, so already have a little knowledge. tis just as i have not seem my bettas actaully mate, so a proper answer to my questions would be more appreciated, rather than thinking i am just another dummy.
 
funny you say only use 1 female as i was told you need at least two so they would not get stressed too much. and i was told that on this forum
 
Well you don't use two females all you have to do is put the female in a cup or container that has a lid and floats and the male with flare and make a bubble nest then you release the female but if you see the male or female shredding the other fishes fins really bad that just means that they weren't meant to be.
 
Well, other females will eat the fry and i would imagine that jealousy and fighting would occur. Usually when breeding you remove the female immediately after spawning.

are you sure people on this forum said that about BETTAS? Because that is true for lots of livebearers.
 
yes am sure.
also bettas where conditioned.
the male hardly ever strays from beneath the nest.
does this mean there will be baby bettas in the nest or not?

i have done lots of research, spoken to 3 different lfs owners, and also got a lot of helpful advice from people on here
 
Yipes.

Firstly, it is not unheard of to use two females. I've even done it before. I put in one she was a dud, put in another and the male took to her and then I removed both girls. No biggie.


lvly~ if you shine a flashlight up into the nest you will see the eggs if they are there :nod: There really is no missing them. If he's staring at an empty nest then he might have problems .Maybe he's contemplating the thickness and such :lol: Or maybe not. Is he working on it at all?

What you *could* do, and folks might hit the roof but meh,let em. You could put a male in a vase for a few minutes :whistle: This might be crazy enough to induce the mood to spawn in your chosen male.

And durbkat~ You've really,really gotta quit copying and pasting that BettaTalk information. It's quite annoying and although it's informative....it really has nothing to do with the topic at hand. AND it's like you're passing it off as your own information. You should state that you're not the author of that material.
 
hiya

will try the lite thing. there is for a nest, just dont know if there is anything init,lol.
he is always doing stuff to the nest.

in the past the nests my males have built, could easily be blown away, this one can not.
thanx for advice wuvmybetta
 
Here is a link to a pic of what the bettas should look like when thier breeding. www.petfish.net/pix/betta_spawn_gemini.jpg If you see them doing this then your good.
 
rite just tried the lite test, the nest appears to be a mass that the lite can not penertrate. is that any help?
also male does not seem to like me shining the torch in there,lol
 
Just look at the link I posted in my previous post and like I said If you see the bettas doing that then your good.
 
in my very first message i said i had not seen them doing it. i can not watch them all the time, as have other comittments
thats why i came on ere to get some help, as dont wish for the females i used to die for any reason. as these females are my pride and joy. waited a long time to get white ones.
 
lvlyldyuk said:
rite just tried the lite test, the nest appears to be a mass that the lite can not penertrate. is that any help?
also male does not seem to like me shining the torch in there,lol
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It's tough to say as sometimes I have a hard time telling for sure with a nest that's right in front of me. But judging by your description of the males reaction- there are most likely eggs in there. Another way to tell is to scan the bottom and around the tank to see if you can find a straggling egg or two. A tell tale sign.
 

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