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Are biotopes possible with a marine setup? Can you limit your invert and fish species to a specific region? Could you even go as far as limiting your live rock to a particular region as well? Just very curious. That could possibly be either very cool, or very boring.

Thanks, and sorry I keep bugging you lovely people with questions, but I figure it's better to ask now than to really bug you with a million questions once I do plan on setting up a system. :p
 
why couldn't you? just research your prefered region and buy only items that would be found there
 
In order to be true to a Biotope you would only have a limited choice of livestock.IMO this would be the only downside. Ive been reading a book about marine biotopes and some of the tanks are spectacular.
From a equipment point, i would think a tide zone could be tricky. Near reef zones, lagoons, seagrass beds, mangroves, all biotopes that i think would be great to mirror in a tank.
The way a tank is arranged can mimic a biotope within a reef. A reef gorge, a rubble zone, a cave,
The idea of a biotope seems like a great idea to me. And to have it as realistic as possible you could mix preditors with prey.
Just a exsample: Your tank contains a small section of reef in the Maldives 10 meters down. The live rock in your tank forms a cave surrounded by soft substrate. A few branching stony corals grow on the rocks above the cave. Some fleshy algae that naturally occur at this depth and a few sponges have started to grow from the rock. Close to the side wall of the cave grows a population of soft corals ( Sinularia dura ) a species that forms broad lobes in the moderate light at this depth. Above the cave hiding within the small branching stony corals several pairs of yellow clown gobies thrive and go through their spawning rituals. They need to hide among the coral branches, as you keep a Spotfin lionfish that loves to feed on small fish and crustaceans. You also keep a pair of Yellowhead sleeper gobies, which are great diggers. They constantly take mouthfuls of substrate hunting for prey, also stirring up nutrients for th corals while keeping the bottom layer clean. Your last fish is a comet that will naturally take up residence inside your cave. The large fishes prevents you from keeping many crustaceans, but a coral banded shrimp does very well in and around the cave. A troop of hermit crabs works to control the growth of filimentous algae.
If you are thinking of a specific biotope, make sure your tank size and lights also meet the needs of the livestock. GOOD LUCK TO YOU, GREAT IDEA.
 
Biotope tanks are a bit of a problem with marines.

The problem is the food chain!
A specific region on a real reef will contain the complete food chain, but due to the huge area and relative proportions of each species it is in balance. This is very difficult to attain in a tank.
For example an area of reef that contains nice corals will also contain the coral-eating species of fish.
Unless you have a big enough tank that you can keep enough corals for the growth rate to match the speed in which the fish can eat them, you will soon end up with just the fish and no coral - shortly followed by no fish now that their food source is gone!

It can be very difficult to create a biotope without any natural predator/prey combinations without severely limiting your choice of stock.
By stocking with fish from different regions, you can have the variety while avoiding these sorts of problems.

That is not to say that it can't be done.
I have always fancied a seagrass setup - unfortunately the availability of the different "grasses" seems to be very poor in the UK compared to the US.
 
it depends on the area you wish to create your biotope. I know 2 people that run Red Sea systems. Everything they have in their setups is native to the red sea fromthesand right up to the fish and corals. This is quite easy to do considering that alot of our fish are from this area anyway. Some of the less popular area would provide other hurdles and difficulties of course.
 
I have always fancied a seagrass setup - unfortunately the availability of the different "grasses" seems to be very poor in the UK compared to the US.

Seagrass? Oh, do explain. I heard a plant name and jumped. If it's what I'm thinking, this is a common biotope in the S. FL coastline.
 
yes, seagrasses are found around florida.
they also occur in a lot of other coastal areas and next to coral reefs.

Seagrasses are from what i remember actual plants rather than macroalgae.

They are very good habitats for seahorses amongst others, as well as good nurseries for fry.

A seagrass tank gives you more of a planted aquarium look compared to most reef tanks.
 
yes, seagrasses are found around florida.
they also occur in a lot of other coastal areas and next to coral reefs.

Seagrasses are from what i remember actual plants rather than macroalgae.

They are very good habitats for seahorses amongst others, as well as good nurseries for fry.

A seagrass tank gives you more of a planted aquarium look compared to most reef tanks.

Hmmm, something to ponder if I decide to set up a system.
 
There are some biotopes that are easy, but, it won't really look like somewhere really different. EG, you could do a Carribbean biotope......seagrasses and seahorses could be one type.....it's a little bit different from doing FW biotopes. Some would be excellent projects, eg, a local North Atlantic one for me. However, non tropical marine tanks can be extremely expensive and difficult to support. SH
 

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