Siamese Tiger Fish

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Right, I know there are different types of these, wide bars, thin bars etc, i'm considering getting some of this for my tank which hopefully will be bought and fully setup shortly after xmas, it will be around 90U.K. Gallons maybe more, so if it turns out to be just over 125 I will consider a group of 5 if not, i'll have to make do with the one. Anyways I was wondering if you friendly people could help me with pictures and prices of these fish :)

Thanks :good:
 
T1KARMANN is the man to talk to bout dats :nod: prices range from about 20 to well over 100 as far as i know
 
before i start the spelling will be way off but you should get the idea :hey:

1st off they are tigers it sounds much nicer than Dats and as they change the latin name from Datnoides to colius alot then the name dat doesnt fit all the time

wide bars seam to be the main type of tiger that most people want the problem with finding them is they are normally shipped under the same name as the less atractive indo tiger and to make matters even harder some indo tigers look alot like the so called wide bar some times they have stripes that make them look like a wide bar somethimes even wide bar stripes on one side and indo stripes on the other

indo tiger and wide bars are shipped normaly to the UK under the name datnoides microlephes (spelt wrong)

the real name for the wide bar is datnoides pulcher (or somethimes coilus pulcher)

the wide bar is the true ST (siamese tiger) in some countrys the indo tiger is known as the false tiger
the indos never hold their color as well as the real ST and they look washed out most of the time and black at other times

the export of the d.pulcher is banned from thialand and so is trading within thialand the reason we get shipped true and false ST in the same batch is some swim over the burma border and are caught their

the pulcher and indo tigers do great in fresh water

indo tigers £25-£60
ST true tiger £55-£250 depending on size and how stable and how nice the stripes are

the next type of tiger that is seen for sale all the time is the silver tiger Datnoides qudrufactulatus (that was a shot in the dark with that spelling) they normally do very well hold their color and feed great they do suffer from sudern death when kept in fresh water as they come from brakish water

the so called thin bar (NTT north thia tiger) are great value for money at around £20-£40 for a 4inch fish)
the NTT is one of the hardest tigers to get stable and to color up

the nicest tiger for me is the NGT (papa new guinea tiger) when they get big they are like a bummble bee they are more agressive than other tigers and much more expencive if you can ever find them
i have tryed to keep 2 in the same tank but it was near imposable
NGT are aslo ment to be a brakish water tiger but thats rubbish they do fine in freshwater £90 if you are lucky up to £500 for a big one if you can find one

tiger can be all kept together in the same tank with all types a tiger will never eat another tiger no matter what the size diffrence a tiger com seams to do better if you have large ones with small ones

i have tryed to mix 2 NGTs in the same tank with no luck now i have one very big NGT and one smaller one they are fine

all tigers grow very very slow it has taken 3 yrs to grow my large NGT from 3inch to 9inch even thought they eat a lot of food

i think the fastest growing tigers are the thin bars

the most depresing thing about tigers is they may look black or washed out in your tank but as soon as you move them or sell them on they color up nice in a new location
 
They're currently not in Coius any more, but Datnioides (note the additional "i", not Datnoides). Coius is, apprently, now a synonym of Anabas, the climbing perch. There's a nice discussion of this in the chapter on Siamese tigers in the Aqualog brackish book, but you can get a summary over at FishBase, too:

http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/FamilySummary.cfm?ID=586

Otherwise not much to add to the above. I think I'd tend to assume Datnioides campbelli is a brackish water fish given its distribution, but I have no personal experience of this fish at all. Datnioides microlepis is definitely a freshwater fish though.

Cheers,

Neale

1st off they are tigers it sounds much nicer than Dats and as they change the latin name from Datnoides to colius alot then the name dat doesnt fit all the time
 
the only reason i stick to the point that cambelii come from fresh water is most of the young we find for sale in the trade are caught in fresh water with only large fish 14inch + being caught in brackish water

i would say cambelli spend most of their time in freshwater but migrate to brackish to breed

no one know how tigers of any type breed or even if they are live bearers , mouth brooders or egg layers
 
I was hoping for a reply from you, but the detail is quite scary :D

I'm certainly going to have to go for the smaller and cheaper ones as there is no way I could afford the expensive ones with my pocket money :)

I'm gonna have a good look around at the ones you suggested, I might pop down to Pier Aquatics this weekend and see whether they could order any and what price they would be.

Thanks :good:

Also whilst searching from tigers, I found your artical, now how does £20 sound :p
 

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