well at a pet store in the mall thats usually bad thats getting a heck of a lot better they had convicts for sale. The only thing was that they werent convicts. they looked just like the ram that I had, but they were kinda whitish. So I told the girl that thats what I thought they were, so that they didnt get sold as convicts by some unknown fish keeper and put into an agressive aquarium and killed. But i hope I was right. I really think I was . They should have given me a free one for correcting there mistake, lol.