Read currently concerning hole in the head disease that Clout might work to treat it. Question I had was what would be the reason not to feed the fish for the 4 day period of treatment. Only thing I can figure is to lessen waste when the carbon is out of the filter, but curious to know.
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I would think that the lack of food would increase the fish's metabolism and in turn make the medication work better. Not sure but will do some more research on that subject.
IME carbon doesn't do a whole lot for filtration. It removes chemicals from the water, ie.:medications. It is what is called chemical filtration. Personally, I feel that the less chemicals the better as it creates a more natural environment for the fish. In planted tanks, carbon can take out some of the trace elements needed for healthy plant growth. With that said, I believe the reason not to use distilled water is the same because it doesn't contain trace elements that fish and plants need to prosper. I also read where too much carbon can cause oxygen depletion. We used carbon for a little while after treating for ick but noticed no difference than when we only had the sponge filter in. Now we only use the sponge and floss to make the water sparkle. This works really well.
Dylox (Trichlorofon)is an organophosphate, available as an over-the-counter preparation under such names as LifeBearer, Di!ox, Clout, Masoten and Anti-parasite. This drug is effective against protozoa, gill and body flukes, and to a lesser extent, Capillaria, but is highly stressful and potentially toxic to fish. Dylox treatment will make the fish nervous and will increase their respiration. Dylox. a neurotoxin, is very injurious to humans, and it is easily absorbed through the skin and mucous membranes. So you must be very careful not to inhale it or handle it without protective rubber gloves. Dylox is very effective, but some strains of body fluke have developed a resistance to it, so its usefulness may vary.
from http
/members.tripod.com/discus_australia...s/article5.html
The major finding on treating this disease is to use a medication called mentronadizole. I have seen that over and over in my research.
Another link with info.......
http/www.everythingfishy.com/84.html
I hope these help........wish someone with more experience than me would answer this one!!
Allie
IME carbon doesn't do a whole lot for filtration. It removes chemicals from the water, ie.:medications. It is what is called chemical filtration. Personally, I feel that the less chemicals the better as it creates a more natural environment for the fish. In planted tanks, carbon can take out some of the trace elements needed for healthy plant growth. With that said, I believe the reason not to use distilled water is the same because it doesn't contain trace elements that fish and plants need to prosper. I also read where too much carbon can cause oxygen depletion. We used carbon for a little while after treating for ick but noticed no difference than when we only had the sponge filter in. Now we only use the sponge and floss to make the water sparkle. This works really well.
Dylox (Trichlorofon)is an organophosphate, available as an over-the-counter preparation under such names as LifeBearer, Di!ox, Clout, Masoten and Anti-parasite. This drug is effective against protozoa, gill and body flukes, and to a lesser extent, Capillaria, but is highly stressful and potentially toxic to fish. Dylox treatment will make the fish nervous and will increase their respiration. Dylox. a neurotoxin, is very injurious to humans, and it is easily absorbed through the skin and mucous membranes. So you must be very careful not to inhale it or handle it without protective rubber gloves. Dylox is very effective, but some strains of body fluke have developed a resistance to it, so its usefulness may vary.
from http
/members.tripod.com/discus_australia...s/article5.htmlThe major finding on treating this disease is to use a medication called mentronadizole. I have seen that over and over in my research.
Another link with info.......
http
/www.everythingfishy.com/84.htmlI hope these help........wish someone with more experience than me would answer this one!!
Allie
Sorry m8 not familiar with that particular med
....but many meds can have a detrimental affect on the filter bacteria and kill it off - therefore its unable to process the fish waste. Most do (but some don't) mention this. Those that don't have any affect will usually say 'filter friendly' or such....
maybe this
....but many meds can have a detrimental affect on the filter bacteria and kill it off - therefore its unable to process the fish waste. Most do (but some don't) mention this. Those that don't have any affect will usually say 'filter friendly' or such....
maybe this
Thanks a bunch Allie. Appears to be some useful information. Glad I found this message board, believe I'll become a regular. Similar site to this I've been involved with for fantasy baseball which is another hobby of mine, but happy to find a place I can get help with my fish. I'm assuming that mentronadizole will be something I need to obtain from a vet. Have a good one in town that seems to know quite a bit about fish, so will explore this as soon as possible on Monday. Was interested to know that some fish will heal in time from this ailment. But not wanting to take any chances. Still somewhat confused as to how to use the medication, and at what point to mix this with the fish food. Assuming no other fish in my tank will be harmed by this. Will ask the vet this also, but would love to hear more about this topic.
I just finished the article that reg2k2 posted, and wondered if others that have read it have opinions. I'd love to believe that is the best way to treat hole in the head, and was wondering if any have had success with the simple methods contained there? Would love it if true that no meds are needed. And think the suggestions there are valuable regardless of effect on this disease, and plan to begin them asap.
Does they get enough D-vitamin? D-vitamin seems to be quite big role in this disease.
Hexa-ex and Octozin seems to work ok (treatment to hexamita, "outsider" parasite) and raising temperature over 30 C. There is no reliable information what causes this disease and what medicine should use interiority - what causes this disease is still unknown.
I would consider to buy some vitamins (for animal), like D and put it into food.
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