Pregnant Guppy Scales Look 'furry'?

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hello, i'm fairly sure this isn't normal but it looks like one of my guppys scales are kind of poking out instead of looking smooth, giving it a furry appearance

is it possible that its due to how fat she is (looking fat due to pregnancy) or is she severely unwell?

thanks
 
if her scales are sticking out (like a pinecone sort of shape) then it might be dropsy, try get a picture up
 
yes i would say it looks like a pinecone shape, unfortunately no camera at the mo

but i'd say that pinecone is a probably the best description for it
 
then you will need some internal parasite meds asap, hopefully we've caught it early enough to treat
 
i've got some fluke and tapeworm taps (praziquantal 100mg)

should i treat the entire tank? (its only about 60L)
other ocupants include about 10 other guppys and about 20 baby mollies(1 monthish old) in a breeding net
i'd rather focus on the breeding of my mollies than my guppies

if the medication is unsuitable then i think i'd prefer to euthanise. i know its sad but the guppies were given to me and i think this tank is overcrowded
also i've read that dropsy is usually fatal by this stage at this site http://www.fishdeals.com/fish_diseases/dropsy/
 
it could also be your water quality not just a parasite.

How long have you had these fish
how long as the tank been running
do u do water changes, if so how much and how often?
 
the tanks been running for about 2 months.
firstly doing water changes every 2 or 3 days for the first 3 weeks then weekly after that
50% water changes. the tank has no substrate.

have had fluctuating heat here the past few weeks the tank went up to about 30 for 5 days (lost 1 fish) then dropped to 20 for a few days but now settled at about 23 for the past week

edit: last water change was about 48hrs ago
 
true it can be caused by high levels of nitrAtes

i'd give them a quick test and post the results up
 
What is their diet like? Constipation can also cause pineconeing.
is it just one fish or many?
Dropsy isnt caused by internal parasite. Generally bacterial or organ failure-in either case of dropsy not ,much you can do other than manage swelling with Epsom salts.
cheers
 
The actual cause of "dropsy" is not well defined. Dropsy is a description of symptoms, not a disease as such. It is especially difficult to treat for the simple reason that the symptoms can be seen with many different causes. The basic pine-coning symptom allows many of us to say dropsy with no reservations but that does not give you an effective treatment regime. Think for a moment about the human condition called pneumonia. Pneumonia, simply stated, means that the breathing passages of people are swollen out of the "normal" condition. OK so what does that mean in terms of treatment? One way of looking at things is to treat symptoms and simply give the patients anti-inflammatory drugs. No doubt that will work with some people by treating the symptoms. For other people the treatment will have no effect. Now let us decide that some cases or pneumonia result from bacterial infections of the various components involved in breathing. Simple antibacterial treatments will take care of those cases. Let us now look at the results of treatments. Antibacterial treatments were the ideal treatment in some cases and anti-inflammatory treatments were the ones most likely to be successful in others. Now let's go back to dropsy. Dropsy can be the result of almost anything that might cause the symptom of swelling of the fish. It is a symptom, not a disease as such. The result is that various treatments may or may not help for a given expression of dropsy symptoms.
One of the toughest things in treating dropsy is determining what the real problem may be, not the symptom.
 
only one fish is displaying this symptom, although i'll have a good look at the rest.
diet consists of flake food. i've tried feeding peas in the past few weeks but they ignore it.

edit. i'm going to bed now, but will check for advice in the morning. i will probably euthanise in the morning because i don't think it will make it and i can't afford any treatments at the moment(apart from water changes)
 
Unfortunately, no consistent treatment has been found to help for the set of symptoms we call dropsy. Your inclination to start with massive water changes is a good one. If it turns out to be related in some way to water quality, that will be the cure. If it turns out to be a bacterial problem or a parasite, it will do no harm but will probably do no good either.
 
yeah well she's gone now, i'm hoping that getting rid of her will reduce the chances of other fish becoming infected, because i don't think it was caused by water quality
 

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