Plenum?

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Was bored at work today and just clicking around on GARF and they say for their bullet-proof reef that you should use a Plenum. I think I get what this i sfor but at the same time not really. I assume its not one of those essential things for a tank as I hear nobody on TFF talking about using them and their tanks are breathtaking, but just wondering why GARF insists to use one. Thanks for any and all info
 
I personally would never use a Jaubert System (or Plenum System). To me, they seem like a ticking time bomb. Jaubert Systems require very light stocking, overstep that capacity by even a little and BOOM! All your fish down the drain.

The idea behind them is indeed to complete the nitrogen cycle. They were controversial even in the olden days (back when undergravel filters were the best filter there was). Basically, a true Jaubert System has no machinery except for a protein skimmer (a gamble at best) and all filtration is accomplished by live rock and algal fronds. Then, the anaerobic plenum converts nitrates into nitrogen, but this situation has some major flaws, for instance, how the hell do nitrates get down under a crate to be processed? But anyways, it did actually reduce the frequency of water changes, if by only a little.

In conclusion:

The Cons of a Jaubert System:
-light stocking only
-coarse gravel only
-no powerheads, otherwise the anaerobes might be upset
-plenums are ugly as sin

The Pros of a Jaubert System:
-potentially reduced frequency of water changes
-a cheap method of setting up a marine tank


If I were you, I would stick to a good ol' Berlin/Sand Bed system. They were and still are the best.
Berlin/Leng Sy systems are showing major promise as well.

-Lynden
 
I was reading about the plenums system today. And yeah , pcp pipe all doesn't sound attractive. As for the Berlin system please explaint this system to me.
 
The Berlin system is filtration through Live Rock and aggressive skimming with powerheads to create water movement.

A plenum is almost certainly not necessary, even if you do a deep sand bed. The only systems a plenum has been shown to work on are ones with a sand bed measured in feet rather than inches. However having a plenum doesn't hurt.

I myself am a fan of a deep sand bed located in a sump as supplementary filtration. I have found they do help a lot with the nitrate export and I seem to recall posting a link in the realm of knowledge to someone who actually compared the abilities of a deep sand bedagainst a skimmer for their effectiveness at removing nutrients.

The most common mistake when doing a deep sand bed is not having it deep enough. You need to view 6" as a bare minimum.
 
what do you need for a DSB aside from lots of sand??? does it need to be lit? what water circulation etc?
 
Lots of sand and (I find) slower flow rate. somewhere int he region of 5x turnover is run through my sumps.

Lighting is not necessary, hence why my new reef will feature a cryptic zone consisting of a DSB with LR on top.

Rob Fenner has a good write up on DSB on the WetWebMedia site.
 
Lots of sand and (I find) slower flow rate. somewhere int he region of 5x turnover is run through my sumps.

Lighting is not necessary, hence why my new reef will feature a cryptic zone consisting of a DSB with LR on top.

Rob Fenner has a good write up on DSB on the WetWebMedia site.


cool, i'll have a look see. been thinking about different sump/fuge options for our reef
 

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