Pink Convict X Blood Parrot

[hybrids are cool]

i just breed my blood parrot with my pink convict .but i would like to know the max size could they get like 12 inches since the blood parrot has red devil genes . they look nothing like jelly beanparots. so i think that whole blood parrotxpink convict = jb parrot convict is bs thanks

 

[Synirr]

6-8"

 

[kubora666]

you never know lol,
i was wondering if i breed a potentially 6" pink convict, with a potentially 12" male nicaragua cichlid,
what would be the offsprings potential size

 

[valleyrich]

If the Blood parrot is "standard" and the Convict is standard then you have jellybeans. THey don't look like jellybeans for several months. The forhead is a straight slope the aren't as wide things like that. But if both are standard then you should max out at no more than 5". I don't understand this since all contributers of genetics in this fish are considerably larger than this but "standard" Jellybeans don't get very large.

 

[Synirr]

I don't understand this since all contributers of genetics in this fish are considerably larger than this but "standard" Jellybeans don't get very large.

I imagine it has to do with genomic imprinting. It's hard to explain, but basically certain genes coming from one parent or the other are "silenced", so depending on which parent the gene is coming from, it will be expressed differently.

Here's an example with lion-tiger hybrids. Genes of a male lion are imprinted so as to cause excessive growth in his offspring because he wants his offspring to be the largest and most fit. Genes coming from the female lion are imprinted for smaller cubs to ensure that as many offspring as possible survive and have an equal chance. Tigers, unlike lions, are solitary and do not live in prides, so there is very little chance that a female will be mated with more than one male during the mating season. Thus, male tigers have no need for this "growth gene", and female tigers have no need to compensate. This means that when a male lion is mated to a female tiger, the resulting offspring inherit only the male's growth instructions and grow uninhibited to gigantic proportions. Ligers are indeed larger than either lions or tigers, and can be as large as a pony and weigh over half a tonne. By the same token, the offspring of a male tiger and a female lion, a tigon, is smaller than either of the parental species.

Since jellybean parrots are always produced by a male convict and a female bloodparrot, that would explain why we only see the one average size

 

[valleyrich]

Thanks for the in depth explination. I don't know I've heard it that way before but it makes more sense this way!
One more question though...What happens when you breed 2 ligers? Are the babies all big or do they vary? I would assume the genes are silenced not eliminated. Has anyone tried something like this?

 

[Krib Crazy]

They are sterile

 

[Synirr]

Yeah, like Krib Crazy said, most ligers are sterile. Sometimes you'll get a fertile female, but fertile males are unheard of. I would assume you'd get a variety of sizes, because remember, the liger only gets that size gene from the lion parent, meaning they only have one copy of it. That gives their offspring a 50% chance of inheriting the gene from either parent. If they get the gene from both parents they'd probably be lion sized, get it from the male parent only and they're liger sized, from the female parent and they're tigon sized, and from neither parent tiger sized

 

[valleyrich]

Thanks Synir. It was hypothetical but you made sense of it, There is really no telling what might happen when hybrids breed. Interesting.