Pets At Home Any Good?

Alexk19

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Not sure if this is the right place to post but basically, im after some feeder fish for my two Yellow Bellied Sliders (terrapins) Maidenhead aquatics sell minnows, danios, and some tetras 10 for £10

does anyone know anywhere cheaper e.g. pets at home which ive never been to



Cheers

Alex.
 
Not sure if this is the right place to post but basically, im after some feeder fish for my two Yellow Bellied Sliders (terrapins) Maidenhead aquatics sell minnows, danios, and some tetras 10 for £10

does anyone know anywhere cheaper e.g. pets at home which ive never been to



Cheers

Alex.
Do NOT feed your turtles on feeder fish -lots of reasons why not:
Expensive
Cruel
Illegal in UK to feed live fish to predators
Dangerous -poorly kept cheap fish can carry diseases and parasites which may infect turtles
Fish don;t provide the right nutrients

Your yellowbellies need a balanced diet just like humans which should consist of

1 Good quality turtle pellets such as Reptomin. Turtle Rescue Centre sells its own brand very good value pellets (£9 for 300g from www.turtlesquad.co.uk)
2 Fresh prawns with heads and tails on
3 Dried shrimp and/or dried fish for calcium
4 Fresh veg =lettuce, cabbage, courgettes thinly sliced, duckweed
5 Protein such as ham or cooked chicken

Mine get ham and veg once a week, pellets 3 times a week and shrimp the rest.
 
Gawwwddd. Take this idea and throw it in a bin and leave it there. Feeding live fish to another animal. It may happen in nature, but our tanks are NOT nature, so don't play God!
 
Is it illegal?

As many places sell ghost shrimp labelled as ideal food for predatory fish, also you can buy live bloodworms and krill which are labelled as live foods?
 
Is it illegal?

As many places sell ghost shrimp labelled as ideal food for predatory fish, also you can buy live bloodworms and krill which are labelled as live foods?

The law is a little hazy on the matter, tbh; howevere, the general consensus is that feeding any live vertebrate is illegal; invertebrates aren't covered; so you can feed live shrimp/crickets/etc, but not mice or fish.

As others have said, live fish aren't a good or healthy food for your terrapins anyway.
 
Is it illegal?

As many places sell ghost shrimp labelled as ideal food for predatory fish, also you can buy live bloodworms and krill which are labelled as live foods?

The law is a little hazy on the matter, tbh; howevere, the general consensus is that feeding any live vertebrate is illegal; invertebrates aren't covered; so you can feed live shrimp/crickets/etc, but not mice or fish.

As others have said, live fish aren't a good or healthy food for your terrapins anyway.

It'll be cheaper & easier anyway in the long run to get the foods already mentioned by fishnovice - you don't want to be running out to buy new live fish every other day do you.
 
if a fish is beaten in my tank, and dies, i feed it to my baby RES. what i found good was the frozen food such as silversides that you can feed predatory fish. the RES go crazy!!!
 
Feeding live fish to other animals is not illegal, but it is a poor nutritional source as well as being one of the best ways known to transfer diseases if the fish are from a shop. If you are keeping a species that will only feed on live moving food your bets bet is to breed them yourself, and gut load them with something to balance out the diet.
 
Feeding live fish to other animals is not illegal,

It is in the UK (as others have said). Cause it comes under animal cruelty laws as vertebrates can feel pain. Is a very 'general' law... and I very much doubt it is likely to ever get acted on with regards to someone feeding a pet turtle... but feeding any fish knowingly to another animal whilst it's alive is illegal in the UK.

Totally agree with everyone else... cruelty/pain aside. The turtle needs a good balanced diet that (without gut loading as Tolak suggested), just isn't going to be covered by live feeder fish.
 
Per the Animal Welfare Act 2006; http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/45/section/4

4Unnecessary sufferingE+W

(1)A person commits an offence if—

(a)an act of his, or a failure of his to act, causes an animal to suffer,

(b)he knew, or ought reasonably to have known, that the act, or failure to act, would have that effect or be likely to do so,

(c)the animal is a protected animal, and

(d)the suffering is unnecessary.

(2)A person commits an offence if—

(a)he is responsible for an animal,

(b)an act, or failure to act, of another person causes the animal to suffer,

(c)he permitted that to happen or failed to take such steps (whether by way of supervising the other person or otherwise) as were reasonable in all the circumstances to prevent that happening, and

(d)the suffering is unnecessary.

(3)The considerations to which it is relevant to have regard when determining for the purposes of this section whether suffering is unnecessary include—

(a)whether the suffering could reasonably have been avoided or reduced;

(b)whether the conduct which caused the suffering was in compliance with any relevant enactment or any relevant provisions of a licence or code of practice issued under an enactment;

(c)whether the conduct which caused the suffering was for a legitimate purpose, such as—

(i)the purpose of benefiting the animal, or

(ii)the purpose of protecting a person, property or another animal;

(d)whether the suffering was proportionate to the purpose of the conduct concerned;

(e)whether the conduct concerned was in all the circumstances that of a reasonably competent and humane person.

(4)Nothing in this section applies to the destruction of an animal in an appropriate and humane manner.


So, if you are keeping an animal that will only hit on live moving food you are feeding it live food for a legitimate purpose, and doing so properly are not causing any undue suffering to the animal being eaten. You are also doing so for the protection of another animal, if that animal will feed on only live moving food.

While the animals requiring this are few & far between, as well as way too many people thinking their animal "has" to have live food when it doesn't, it is still legal when it needs to be done.

The law itself concerns undue suffering, if you own an animal that will only eat live moving food, and you don't provide this, that animal will not eat. By doing this you are starving the animal, without a doubt being a failure to act, as stated in 1-a, thus you would be in violation of the law if you failed to provide live food to this sort of animal in your care.

I think the Animal Welfare Act 2006 is only second to being misquoted & misunderstood to the "inch per gallon" guideline.
 

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