Particular Silicone?

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The trim is starting to peel away from the 55 Gallon tank I got a couple weeks ago (not the 55 Gallon that's up and running :lol:) Is there any particular sealant I should use on there? I did a little bit of searching, and it sounds like there is aquarium specific sealant, but wasn't sure if that's the only one I can use? Any tips for getting the trim to stick nicely against the glass? Thanks!
 
It must be aquarium safe silicone. There are several brands you can use. Despite building tanks myself though, I cannot remember the brand I use though... :unsure:

For the silicone to peel after just a few weeks in a new tank, it hasn't been glued properly. Clearly there was grease on the glass what was not removed before gluing. This is a manufacturing fault. Take it back and ask for a replacement. Granted, the shop does not cover glass damage, but this isn't glass damage, it's a silicone defect ;)

All the best
Rabbut
 
It's actually a used tank. I failed to mention that, oops! So the tank is a bit old. It used to be a salt water tank, so I'm not sure if that contributed to the trim peeling away at all. I'm going to be using it for fresh water.
 
i'm in the middle of researching this myself.
the impression i am mostly getting is any 100% silicone sealant that does not say "mildrew resistant" or "fungus resistant", or any cool sounding thing like "bio-seal", and also it should be clear..
these are fungicides or something..and you don't really want to put them in your tank.

..i was just at home depot and took a guess and picked one up, as the lady working said any would do, but i got the wrong one. GE silicone I is the right thing i think

other people say stick with the "aquarium sealant" because they just trust it better..but someone responded to that that they researched it and the sealants are the exact same thing.

but hopefully you can just take it back
 
I don't mind getting an aquarium specific sealant, just means another trip for me (was planning on going to Home Depot after work anyway). But, it does give me a good reason to go to the LFS. :lol: It's the top trim in the corner, maybe an inch or two, that's starting to come away. I wanted to get that fixed before I clean it out and start the fishless cycle.
 
If some has started to peel, I'd replace it all :nod:

Aquarium sealant is free of fungicides, but also uses acetic acid as it's main solvent :good:

All the best
Rabbut
 
If some has started to peel, I'd replace it all :nod:

Aquarium sealant is free of fungicides, but also uses acetic acid as it's main solvent :good:

All the best
Rabbut

I didn't know you could do that! :blush: I feel a little bit silly now. How would I go about getting the old trim off, and where would I find new trim?
 
If your silicone is peeling, strip down the tank and clean it thoroughly. Remove all plastic trim, and cut out the old silicone (on the inside of the tank only, try not to push between the pains of glass) with a sharp blade and scrape away all traces of silicone from the inside joints. Once all the internal silicone is off, test your structural silicone by applying outward pressure to the front and back pain. If they don't move and you don't hear any lovely creaking, you are good to re-seam. If you do hear any creaking or see movement, you will have to re-build the tank...

I'll assume you have a tank that has good structural silicone here. If the structural silicone has gone also, post back here and then set about taking the tank down to 5 separate pains of clean glass with all silicone and dirt removed. I'll get back to you with a "how to build a tank" guide that's more practical than the pin for a large® tank that 20g...

Wipe down the inside joints with any alcohol based cleaner (Mentholated spirits, white spirit, pain brush cleaner, nail varnish remover, Jhonson's Flea Spray...) and mask up the tank with masking tape. Silicone is messy stuff that can end up going every where, so control where it can go by masking off all placed you don't want it to go. Masking off the tank is slow, difficult and tedious, but is time and effort well spent and the job is neater and more professional looking when done :nod:

Now you have done a preliminary clean, and masked up, you wipe down with alcohol cleaner again. Open up your new tube of silicone and cut the nozle to the correct width of bead you wish to run, and then apply your silicone to all joint. Once you have enough on, lick your finger to dampen it and then smooth over all the joints, pressing out air bubbles and ensuring the silicone contacts all areas that are not covered by masking tape. Once smoothed over, use your clean hand to pull of the tape. From first application to tape removal, you mustn't take more than 5 mins, or the silicone will skin over and ruin the job. Don't rush, but don't go slow either :nod:

Let the tank sit and "cure" for at least 48 hours, or until you can no longer smell silicone, which ever come last :good:

Now the tank is re-sealed and cured, water test it outside on a level surface that is lined with polystyrene. If it does not leak, drain it again and glue the trim back on, again leaving it 48 hours, before putting your tank to use again :good: You need the Polystyrene base lining, as the plastic trim making the "floating based" tanks float won't be there as usual if you happen to have a floating based tank...

All the best
Rabbut
 
Thanks rabbut as always for your help. :good:
 
100% silicone alot of lfs sell it in big 330mm tubes i get it for £4:50 but most sanitory silicone is 100% as it has to be because its in contact with water that ends up in the main natural water corses and resiviors do not use any with a fungicide in it
 

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