Otocinclus internal bleeding!

[GuppyBreeder180604]

I was wachting my fish when i noticed this oto had a bloddy spot on his head, he is behaving normaly but i am still worried, what can i do or expect? Is there a way to stop the bleeding? Is there a danger to it? Maybe it is a bruise but i doubt it because of it's bright red color.
Please help me.

 

[Colin_T]

It's blood, probably caused by an injury. The fish might have got caught somewhere and struggled and damaged itself. Monitor it over the next few days and it should be ok.

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You can do the following to help improve the odds of it healing.

Wipe the inside of the glass down with a clean fish sponge.

Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate every day for one week. The water changes and gravel cleaning will reduce the number of disease organisms in the water and provide a cleaner environment for the fish to recover in.
Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it is added to the tank.

Clean the filter if it hasn't been done in the last 2 weeks. Wash the filter materials/ media in a bucket of tank water and re-use them. Tip the bucket of dirty water on the garden/ lawn. Cleaning the filter means less gunk and cleaner water with fewer pathogens.

Increase surface turbulence/ aeration to maximise the dissolved oxygen in the water.

If it gets worse or goes white and fluffy over the next few days, post more pictures and add some salt, (see directions below for salt).

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SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt) or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, Bettas & gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria, fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

When you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish.

 

[GuppyBreeder180604]

It's blood, probably caused by an injury. The fish might have got caught somewhere and struggled and damaged itself. Monitor it over the next few days and it should be ok.

----------
You can do the following to help improve the odds of it healing.

Wipe the inside of the glass down with a clean fish sponge.

Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate every day for one week. The water changes and gravel cleaning will reduce the number of disease organisms in the water and provide a cleaner environment for the fish to recover in.
Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it is added to the tank.

Clean the filter if it hasn't been done in the last 2 weeks. Wash the filter materials/ media in a bucket of tank water and re-use them. Tip the bucket of dirty water on the garden/ lawn. Cleaning the filter means less gunk and cleaner water with fewer pathogens.

Increase surface turbulence/ aeration to maximise the dissolved oxygen in the water.

If it gets worse or goes white and fluffy over the next few days, post more pictures and add some salt, (see directions below for salt).

--------------------
SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt) or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, Bettas & gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria, fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

When you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish.

Thanks a lot!! Will do, the filter was cleaned just a few days ago but i'll do it again for good measure. I already added an air stone for more oxygen, i will keep you updated. O ce again thanks for yout help

 

[fishyfun&fans]

remember to not Over Clean your Filter though

this is where the Good Bacteria in the tank starts out

 

[fishyfun&fans]

It's blood, probably caused by an injury. The fish might have got caught somewhere and struggled and damaged itself. Monitor it over the next few days and it should be ok.

----------
You can do the following to help improve the odds of it healing.

Wipe the inside of the glass down with a clean fish sponge.

Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate every day for one week. The water changes and gravel cleaning will reduce the number of disease organisms in the water and provide a cleaner environment for the fish to recover in.
Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it is added to the tank.

Clean the filter if it hasn't been done in the last 2 weeks. Wash the filter materials/ media in a bucket of tank water and re-use them. Tip the bucket of dirty water on the garden/ lawn. Cleaning the filter means less gunk and cleaner water with fewer pathogens.

Increase surface turbulence/ aeration to maximise the dissolved oxygen in the water.

If it gets worse or goes white and fluffy over the next few days, post more pictures and add some salt, (see directions below for salt).

--------------------
SALT
You can add rock salt (often sold as aquarium salt) or swimming pool salt to the aquarium at the dose rate of 1 heaped tablespoon per 20 litres of water. If there is no improvement after 48 hours you can double that dose rate so there is 2 heaped tablespoons of salt per 20 litres.

Keep the salt level like this for at least 2 weeks but no longer than 4 weeks otherwise kidney damage can occur. Kidney damage is more likely to occur in fish from soft water (tetras, Corydoras, angelfish, Bettas & gouramis, loaches) that are exposed to high levels of salt for an extended period of time, and is not an issue with livebearers, rainbowfish or other salt tolerant species.

The salt will not affect the beneficial filter bacteria, fish, plants, shrimp or snails.

After you use salt and the fish have recovered, you do a 10% water change each day for a week using only fresh water that has been dechlorinated. Then do a 20% water change each day for a week. Then you can do bigger water changes after that. This dilutes the salt out of the tank slowly so it doesn't harm the fish.

When you do water changes while using salt, you need to treat the new water with salt before adding it to the tank. This will keep the salt level stable in the tank and minimise stress on the fish.

or one teaspoon per 5 litres is adequate aswell

 

[GuppyBreeder180604]

remember to not Over Clean your Filter though

this is where the Good Bacteria in the tank starts out

Of course, only on water change water

 

[fishyfun&fans]

also only clean your filter using your fish tank water in a seperate barrel

 

[Colin_T]

Thanks a lot!! Will do, the filter was cleaned just a few days ago but i'll do it again for good measure. I already added an air stone for more oxygen, i will keep you updated. O ce again thanks for yout help

If the filter was cleaned a couple of days ago, you don't need to do it again for a month.

 

[GuppyBreeder180604]

If the filter was cleaned a couple of days ago, you don't need to do it again for a month.

Understood. Hey, the oto is sticking his nose out of the water or siting on the filter intake, what does this mean?, it has been doing it since yesterday. I already added an airstone in the morning and put the filter to max power to increase surface agitation as much as possible, and i just lowered the temperature 2 degrees to help increase oxygen levels

 

[Myraan]

How often do you water change? Do you test the water? Maybe this fish is trying to escape bad water quality? If the other fish aren't, maybe the fish just likes it there, maybe he noticed a tasty species of algae grows there?

 

[Colin_T]

It could be looking for more oxygen if it's having trouble breathing. you have done everything you can to increase the oxygen levels so just monitor and keep the tank clean and hope it pulls through.

 

[GuppyBreeder180604]

It could be looking for more oxygen if it's having trouble breathing. you have done everything you can to increase the oxygen levels so just monitor and keep the tank clean and hope it pulls through.

It stopped doing it so i guess it was just that

 

[GuppyBreeder180604]

How often do you water change? Do you test the water? Maybe this fish is trying to escape bad water quality? If the other fish aren't, maybe the fish just likes it there, maybe he noticed a tasty species of algae grows there?

I do it once a week, yes i do test my water, i don't think it is bad water quality since i did a water change just 3 days ago, i guess what @Colin_T said was the answer tho, maybe it was looking for more oxygen and now that the water has had time for the changes to do effect, it has stopped puting it's nose out of water.

 

[GuppyBreeder180604]

She died

 

[Bruce Leyland-Jones]

I do it once a week, yes i do test my water, i don't think it is bad water quality since i did a water change just 3 days ago,

Do you actually test your water, using a proper test kit?