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It's amazing how quickly the below post in the normal members pics section has disappeared. Anyhow, I know some of you salty peeps like the weirder stuff, so regardez vous ici:



Well, the lfs has finally found some decent frogs, so naturally I came home a happy man, but somewhat lighter in the pocket.

The old one has continued its colour change and now looks like this:

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Those that saw the earlier threads will know that he started off looking like this:

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But then this is more about new fish than old ones. So earlier today the reef tank looked like this:

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Until the fish were moved into their new quarters. While the first one happily swam out of the bag

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The other one had to be helped:

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And so we focus on the more yellow fish which looks to be another Antennarius maculatus and very similar in colouration to the one I already had. The main difference would appear to be that there are less spots, which I assume will mean a less potent ability to change colour (the old one could be black, brown, green, orange or yellow).

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And then there is the other one, ostensibly another A. maculatus though I am not so sure. I have not yet studied it with the books out, but the genereal structure has me more in mind of a Lophiochoran sp than a member of the Antennarius genus.

Regardless, he does look cool:

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In case anyone wondered how I get such good shots, I have a Nina:

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Awesome fish. JEALOUS. And the live-in photographer. Lucky reefer, you!
 
Wow thats the fisrt time i have ever seen one of them and they're defo different but I do not think the mrs would be best pleased if I had one of them in ma tank! ;)
 
Brilliant photos, cant beleive how different your first one looks now. Does it change colour rapidly (hours/days) or has it taken a couple of months for it to change to the bright yellow? Have you got them all in the same tank as well?

Any chance of the photos of the rest of the setup also?
 
I love frog fish it si a shame they get so big! well too big for my tank!!

Keep us all updated andy!
 
Brilliant photos, cant beleive how different your first one looks now. Does it change colour rapidly (hours/days) or has it taken a couple of months for it to change to the bright yellow? Have you got them all in the same tank as well?

Any chance of the photos of the rest of the setup also?


I know they were just introduced to the tank recently, but are they staying out in the open a lot or hidden?

Well, to reply to both of these I have taken a few more pics (as has Nina). The frogs are staying out in the open quite happily and the colour change on the original frog took place over a month or so really. Within a month they can go from black with orange spots to orange with black spots.

First up are them all in situ from when I got home from work tonight

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And a full shot of the reef and the frog fuge above it

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Before focusing on the side of the fuge inhabited by the new frogs

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And a few shots of the two new frogs:

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And as the camera was still out while feeding the (cyano)reef:

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Nearly forgot...

 
Incredible; system and fish. :good: Don't worry about the cyano; it'll lose it's grip eventually, and I must say yours is pretty compared to the thick rusty slime that once covered my tank's sand bed. :crazy:

How easy was it to get the betta to feed? Regarding the frogs as well, is weaning required?
 
Wow, didnt expect it to eat the whole prawn. Wonderful pics man. I like that setup a lot, was thinking of doing a fuge above my display as well.
 
awsome, what is that black one called. In aus we dont get alot, but i used to have one exactly like the black one, just in lighter colour patterns. He grew to the size of my hand.
They got so much more character than other fish.
 
Incredible; system and fish. :good: Don't worry about the cyano; it'll lose it's grip eventually, and I must say yours is pretty compared to the thick rusty slime that once covered my tank's sand bed. :crazy:

How easy was it to get the betta to feed? Regarding the frogs as well, is weaning required?

I don't worry about the cyano. It keeps fading, but then I pump up the lights a bit more and it comes back. Eventually it will have nowhere to hide, especially with another couple of sand sifting gobies in there to keep the sand turned over.

The betta fed fine. He takes flakes or prawns without any weaning.

The frogs are a bit different. The black one is feeding fine on dead, but the two A. maculatus are less attracted to dead at the mo. However, poking a fish through the egg crate got the original one interested and luring, so that's a good sign.

awsome, what is that black one called. In aus we dont get alot, but i used to have one exactly like the black one, just in lighter colour patterns. He grew to the size of my hand.
They got so much more character than other fish.

The black one is believed to be a Lophriocharon trisignatus. The natural range is from Philipines down to Australia. While attaining 7" is possible with this species, I would expect the larger frogfish in captivity to be either Antennarius commerson or A. ocellatus with the former being more common.

Thats awesome then it burps after eating, I take it he is male :lol:

The "burp" is most probably the fish clearing out its stomach. The act of striking involves creating a large vacuum which water (including the prey) are sucked into. If the target is near the sand then sand will come in as well as more water than the frog wants. The frog sorts out where it wants the prey to be in the stomach and then seems to shoot water through to flush out anything it doesn't.

In the video you will see the puff of sand from behind the frogfish. They take water into their mouth and pass it out through openings in the corner where the pectorals mee the body. they can actually move forwards via jet propulsion when needed to by essentially "breathing".
 

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