No more walmart bettas for me......

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Well, last night my male mg vt died evidently in his sleep as that is how i found him, in his sleeping position. in the last 2 years iv had 4 walmart bettas, 3 suffered unexplainable stress symptoms and died within the first month or so of purchase. there is juts no way i can explain it, they seem fine after i get them home and into a bowl of clean water, but in a few weeks they get very stressed out and die on me. none of the other bettas i have (the ones i bought from breeders) ever show these symptoms, and iv had them all for 6-9 months. it really makes me feal bad because i wanna think its my fault, so unless i find the holy grail of bettas sitting in a cup at walmart, im doing my business else where, i hate haveing stuff die on me, im my worst critic :unsure:
 
believe me, it's not you. most breeders LOVE their fish, they do it because they enjoy it and give everything they possibly can to make their fishes lives the best they can. these fish are healthy and happy. this gives you optimal chance to have success. you obviously treat your bettas with a lot of love and caring. your responsible for them. other breeders breed for money or to have the "best" or just the right one and who knows how many other reasons and just discard the rest (possibly thats why there were 35 identical red bettas at petsmart most destined to die?) they aren't treated well, are given horrible living conditions throughout their entire lives (i have to wonder if they aren't all as young as they look, possibly undersized because of this?), shipping is terrible (can you imagine?). sometimes even good conditions just can't make up for the past. these people usually have no respect for any living creatures, not just fish. did you see all the cute bunnies in the stores for the past few weeks just for easter? how many will end up being let go outside because they are too hard to take care of. my favorite is when the parent tells the child that its better for this hand fed, indoor bunny to be in its natural habitat....or left to starve in a box outside? how about the puppies and kittens that are abandoned every year which were originally given as gifts? the overwhelming number of dalmations showing up at shelters after that #*^@ movie came out? how many goldfish get dumped in lakes or end up dying slow deaths in stagnant bowls? what about the people who dump rodents and snakes, letting them return to the wild (not!) these animals weren't raised by a good breeder. a good breeder usually has a pretty good idea if someone will be responsible for the pet, will take the pet back or help in some way because they CARE. these animals were bred in mills etc, then bought and sold annonymously (they don't care who the buyers are, the buyers don't care who they are) through chain stores and places that just don't care. raised as a decoration, sold as a decoration, died as a decoration. my beautiful english pointer was abandoned in state lands to die because she couldn't have puppies. luckily someone rescued her and we got to have 15 wonderful years together.
other animals have some rights yet fish are treated like trash. unfortunately bettas are popular and so many wrong myths are out there. this is why we must end these myths and try to do whatever we can to help. we can't save them all but we can tell and correct people. the more people know, the better they will be treated, that's why telling managers is so important. look how long the Humane Society and other organizations have been around. they still haven't solved all the problems. we need to get bettas and other fish on their list. it's beyond sad. And this is why walmart fish tend to die such a slow, terrible death.
sorry about my rant but, hugs, it's not you :)
 
sorry to hear of your loss...

lucky for me only 1 out of the 4 walmarts near me (that i have been to) carries fish. it is kinda out of the way, but i did come home with 2 of my girls when i went in there.
 
I've lost quite a few Walmart bettas, and I think it's because the ones at my local Walmart come from weak stock... they tend to get finrot more often than the bettas I've bought from my LFS or breeders, and they're harder to cure, too, no matter how clean I keep the water and how many meds I try.
I still buy them there, though, if I find a particularly nice one... sometimes you get lucky. My cellophane male came from Walmart and has never been sick in his life. He's probably nearly two years old :wub:
 
wow, you all have some crazy walmart stories! the nearest walmart to me is down in the ghetto area of mountain view so i haven't even been there in the 6 yrs i've been living in the bay area. i have no idea if they even sell fish or not. but i know the one in chico where i grew up sells fish & their bettas seem ok from what i remember, but it was quite awhile ago since i was even there to look.

just from hearing the horror stories i doubt i'd ever buy a walmart betta, even if they put a walmart in near me.
 
The bettas at WM here are in terrible condition too (as are all their fish). I have a beautiful deep red male now that I have been treating for fin rot bor 11 days now. I'm going to switch him off Melafix tomorrow and try something else as the Melafix doesn't seem to be doing anything at all.
 
GD - I understand your frustration.
I purposely buy them sick from WM so I can nurse them back to health because I know that most likely nobody else will want a "sick" fish.

From my best judgment, I can bet you that before a betta gets the chance to look at you from the shelf at WalMart, they've most likely been to hell and back already. They've been mass produced, mass fed, mass water changed (SOMEtimes they have been waterchanged), tossed onto a big truck and toted around to some loading dock. Then they're tossed onto a shelf. It's no wonder they look depressed and have sort of lost their will to live.

Breeders actually care about their fish so those fish are healthier and stronger, and therefore have a much better chance in life.

That's why I bring home the lowly weak little souls from WM - cuz I think they need me. :wub: It's not for everybody, but I like to bring them home. At the point I am right now with my fishes, if I were to get one from a breeder that wasn't either sick or had some amazing story of recovery I would feel guilty. But that's just because that means that the healthy fish would be taking the place of one that's really sick and needs someone like me.

I can also understand the frustration of not having a fish around that's healthy and ready for a good long life. :)
 
yea, but even when i picked him up at WM, he wasn't in that bad of shape really, and i dont dout that he was alredy a full year old, i dunno, iv got a new male comeing from kelly this week or next week sometime, that'll help fill teh void :thumbs:
 
Bettamomma, I've been following your tailess thread am an quite interested to see how it turns out :) Time to go and check it again :D
I would like a Betta one day soon but will have no choice but to buy one from a lfs which doesn't sound much better than Walmart :( Wish we had some breeders around here :(
 
cerulean said:
believe me, it's not you. most breeders LOVE their fish, they do it because they enjoy it and give everything they possibly can to make their fishes lives the best they can. these fish are healthy and happy. this gives you optimal chance to have success. you obviously treat your bettas with a lot of love and caring. your responsible for them. other breeders breed for money or to have the "best" or just the right one and who knows how many other reasons and just discard the rest (possibly thats why there were 35 identical red bettas at petsmart most destined to die?) they aren't treated well, are given horrible living conditions throughout their entire lives (i have to wonder if they aren't all as young as they look, possibly undersized because of this?), shipping is terrible (can you imagine?). sometimes even good conditions just can't make up for the past. these people usually have no respect for any living creatures, not just fish. did you see all the cute bunnies in the stores for the past few weeks just for easter? how many will end up being let go outside because they are too hard to take care of. my favorite is when the parent tells the child that its better for this hand fed, indoor bunny to be in its natural habitat....or left to starve in a box outside? how about the puppies and kittens that are abandoned every year which were originally given as gifts? the overwhelming number of dalmations showing up at shelters after that #*^@ movie came out? how many goldfish get dumped in lakes or end up dying slow deaths in stagnant bowls? what about the people who dump rodents and snakes, letting them return to the wild (not!) these animals weren't raised by a good breeder. a good breeder usually has a pretty good idea if someone will be responsible for the pet, will take the pet back or help in some way because they CARE. these animals were bred in mills etc, then bought and sold annonymously (they don't care who the buyers are, the buyers don't care who they are) through chain stores and places that just don't care. raised as a decoration, sold as a decoration, died as a decoration. my beautiful english pointer was abandoned in state lands to die because she couldn't have puppies. luckily someone rescued her and we got to have 15 wonderful years together.
other animals have some rights yet fish are treated like trash. unfortunately bettas are popular and so many wrong myths are out there. this is why we must end these myths and try to do whatever we can to help. we can't save them all but we can tell and correct people. the more people know, the better they will be treated, that's why telling managers is so important. look how long the Humane Society and other organizations have been around. they still haven't solved all the problems. we need to get bettas and other fish on their list. it's beyond sad. And this is why walmart fish tend to die such a slow, terrible death.
sorry about my rant but, hugs, it's not you :)
I agree with you, about all those animals. The problem is that most are impulse buys. People don't think, research, or prepare before they get an animal. They see a cute puppy or what ever, and get it. They don't think of the care involved. How long does this animal live, how big is it going to get. One animal that you left out, that is very important, is Greyhounds. They are breed by the thousands, kept in little cages most of the time, and given very minimal care. Then when they don't make money for the owner anymore, many are disposed of like yesterdays trash. The laws have improved, but there not covered under many that other animals are. :-( SORRY, for my little rant. I can't believe how many people support Greyhound racing knowing how they are treated. I have 2 adopted ex racing Greyhounds. They are the best dogs I have ever had. I work with Greyhound rescue to save as many as possible. Feel free to email me if you want any info on Greyhounds.
 
ManyFISH4Me said:
One animal that you left out, that is very important, is Greyhounds. They are breed by the thousands, kept in little cages most of the time, and given very minimal care. Then when they don't make money for the owner anymore, many are disposed of like yesterdays trash. The laws have improved, but there not covered under many that other animals are. cry1.gif SORRY, for my little rant. I can't believe how many people support Greyhound racing knowing how they are treated. I have 2 adopted ex racing Greyhounds. They are the best dogs I have ever had. I work with Greyhound rescue to save as many as possible. Feel free to email me if you want any info on Greyhounds.
you are right, so sorry about the greyhounds! we have 2 greyhound rescues in our lake. one is very nice, calm, what a beautiful dog but i've never gotten to know him because i don't know the owners well. the other is Cabba, my next door neighbors. she is an EXCELLENT dog, very well mannered, quiet, polite would be the best word for her. she was a racer but then ended up being bred way too many times. they got her at age 5, have added 2 children to the family which that wonderful dog has completely accepted. she also gets along with my cats (i help with cat rescues) that come to visit. it's amazing after the hard life she's had how she's adapted so perfectly :) wonderful dogs!

impulse buying, thats the word i couldn't think of! it is always best to research and look around you before purchasing an animal of any kind. be responsible! so very many are in need from bettas, cats, dogs, ferrets, birds, snakes, pick a pet shop animal. they aren't disposable and all deserve our love :wub:
 
Never liked Greyhound racing - always felt sorry for them. Don't have any room for a Greyhound at the moment - have two white German Shephards which are culled over here because their colour doesn't match 'the breed standard' :( :(
It's all just soooo sad :(
 
i had AmyI a dark mostly black female. she was ugly she cam from walmart she was a sweety pie i loved her for a full six months before she suddenly died .i am glad there isnt a walmart near me .i had a sucessfull walmart betta Gus the betta lived for 3 years almost 4 in my care (he would be 5 in may i swear)
 
well next to neglect by walmart and the breeders, you hav eto look at the biological backround. its like a betta factory, they just throgh fish together and ship them out, many are probably jsut as imbred as todays guppys, how can u expect a fish to live long if its last 5 generations were all related :angry: you are lucky or very careing to have had a betta live that long for you, even professionals rarely have their fish survive that long.

as for greyhounds, they animals were bred to be runners, they are clearly large animals and are ment to be kept outdoors with plenty of room to roam, not in a cage awaiting the next competition. i have no problem with the raceig, its all in good fun, but the gambleing needs to go, and the racers must be dedicated enogh to care for their dogs during and after is raceing career, abandonment is just unacceptable and should be punished in the same way you are punsih for abandoning a child. being someone's ***** in jail for a year or two will make u thuink twice next time :X
 
My Walmart betta is sick too, and I haven't had him for more than a week :/ The people I've spoken to about bettas think they rarely live longer than a year and a co-worker said bettas go crazy if put in an aquarium--"that is why you only find them sold in cups" she said. Sad for the fishes. :(
 

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