Nitrate too high???

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Hi

My tank has been running really smoothly and the last test has really worried me ammonia 0ppm Nitrite 0pmm Nitrate 20/40ppm
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What do you think?

Why is this happening.

I have a 40lt tank with the following fish
3 Black Neon Tetra
2 Glow Light Tetra
2 platys
2 bronze corys
2 amano Shrimp
1 snail

And lots of live plants. My last water change was 3 days ago and was 50% .

I have hight pH 8.2, temp 26.2.
The water is very hard, 18°German, total hardness 318ppm

Thank you for all your help
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Yes, test the tap water alone for nitrate.

Another thing, as you seem to be using the API test...shake Regent #2 for a good 2 minutes, not just the 30 seconds in the instructions. False readings are known if this is not done.

Byron.
 
Thank you. Should I test the tap water how I normally test it then again after shaking it for 2 mins (also do I do it straight from the tap - I don't need to leave it or anything)

I'll also retest the tank.
Thanks Clare

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Thank you. Should I test the tap water how I normally test it then again after shaking it for 2 mins (also do I do it straight from the tap - I don't need to leave it or anything)

I'll also retest the tank.
Thanks Clare

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Well, that would show up the difference, if there is one. But so long as you shake Regent #2--this means the bottle of the second liquid you add drops from into the test tube, after you have added the drops from Regent #1 and shaken the tube according to directions. You need to thoroughly mix up Regent # 2 itself, there are powders involved that can fall to the bottom of the Regent #2 bottle, resulting in a false reading.

Do this for a test of the tap water, and a separate test of the tank water. Then see where you are.
 
OK this was the tap water with 2min shake of bottle#2
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Straight out of the cold tap. I'd say it's 20/40ppm straight from the tap what can I do if anything about this or is it OK for my little friends.
Thanks Clare

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Sorry I ment 40/80 ppm and I know that it's not supposed to go this high [emoji17]

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This is a different problem. Nitrate occurring within the aquarium we can manage by fish load, feeding, reducing organics, live plants, water changes, etc, but in the source water it takes a different strategy. There are some threads where this is gone into. AbbeysDad is one member who has dealt with this problem effectively, maybe PM him so he sees this thread.

Before it is said, some will likely suggest there is nothing wrong with nitrates, but this is not sensible thinking. Keeping them as low as possible will always mean better health for the fish. I don't know where you are, but in the UK there seems to be several areas with high nitrates. I would recommend you look into methods to lower them some, and having a smaller tank is a benefit as regular water changes will be less problematic.

Byron.
 
Thank you. I'll make sure that I do regular water change. Is my fish load and plant load ok. I feed my fish twice a day with flakes will be stating frozen bloodworms once/twice a week soon. I live in south East England Kent.

Thanks.

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Thank you. I'll make sure that I do regular water change. Is my fish load and plant load ok. I feed my fish twice a day with flakes will be stating frozen bloodworms once/twice a week soon. I live in south East England Kent.

Thanks.

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Sometimes I hate this question, or similar. I get so tired of having to tell someone "well..." when it is not exactly "good" news.

Some of the fish you have are shoaling fish, meaning they live in large groups of hundreds, and they need several of their own species in the aquarium. The tetras and cories are shoaling (platys are not). Nathan Hill happened to author an article in PFK that I saw earlier today, and will cite from as he says it well:


Having shoals that are too small
Some fish are destined to do badly by virtue of being constantly nervous. Shoaling fish are gregarious by nature, and their whole life cycle may depend on their interactions with others.
In the wild, barbs and tetras may live in shoals of hundreds at a time. In those shoals will be complex hierarchies, social ties and breeding opportunities. When kept as three individuals in a tank, all of this innate social programming is redundant.

That could mean shy fish, hidden away, refusing to eat and slowly starving. Or in the case of others it may lead to fin nipping, as fish try to interact with different species as they would their own kind.

Always buy as many of one kind of shoaling fish as you can afford or accommodate. Mixed shoals, and the pick-and-mix option might be great for bags of Haribo, but this approach won’t work with sensitive animals.​

Aquarists, especially those starting out, will ask "how many?" by which of course they mean the minimum for the good of the fish. Five or six is usually considered the absolute minimum.

Space is obviously minimal for this. To go out on a limb, for the sake of the fish, if this were me and I had no options (meaning, other or larger tanks) I would get another 2-3 cories, and another 3-4 of each of the tetra species. Live plants help you--especially those floating plants (in more ways than this)--and regular partial water changes. Feed minimally, once a day is sufficient, and not much. Each of these fish only needs a flake or two for nutritional needs daily. The corys must have sinking foods, like shrimp tablets, Veggie Rounds. Frozen bloodworms as a treat, only once a week (this is not a good food more often).

Byron.
 
I don't think my tank is big enough for me to have another 2/3 corys and 3/4 of each of the tetra it's only a 40ltr..

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Can I mix the Cory species like add dwarf corys with the bronze or will I need to keep the same.

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I don't think my tank is big enough for me to have another 2/3 corys and 3/4 of each of the tetra it's only a 40ltr..

That's why I said I was going out on a limb...this is workable but not something I would recommend unless one is in this situation. The other option of course, is to return the two tetras (the platy are going to be a lot in this tank when they mature as it is), and up the cories.

The point is, that you should do something to alleviate the stress the tetras will have from their numbers. There aren't many options.

Can I mix the Cory species like add dwarf corys with the bronze or will I need to keep the same.

Yes on mixing species, but not the dwarf. Having at least five of a cory species is preferable, but having two species is better than just two cories. I have 50 in my 70g, representing 12 species. A few have one, two or three of the species, for various reasons. I have found that they chum around together, though I cannot obviously say if being the only one or two of a species in this situation is or is not still affecting them. I have two species that only have two of them, as it happens male and female, and both have spawned more than once, so I must assume they are reasonably "happy" in with all the others. They are (except when spawning) rarely together, but separated in with other species that they bumble around with.

The "dwarf" species of cory are highly sensitive fish, more than their cousins who are rather sensitive to begin with, and this means close proximity to water parameters, and sand substrate is essential. The bronze cory, peppered cory, and sterbai cory are all being commercially raised now, so these woould be better choices given your parameters. Most all of the other 150+ species will be wild caught.
 
If I got another 2 Cory would that be too much for my tank at the moment though as the lfs doesn't take fish back and I don't know anyone else with a tank thank could take the 2 Glow lights. But once they've gone I would need to get 3 more black neons bringing them upto 6 would that be ok? Along with my 2 platys in a 40litre tank.

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If I got another 2 Cory would that be too much for my tank at the moment though as the lfs doesn't take fish back and I don't know anyone else with a tank thank could take the 2 Glow lights. But once they've gone I would need to get 3 more black neons bringing them upto 6 would that be ok? Along with my 2 platys in a 40litre tank.

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Yes, a couple more cories is the single most important thing here, when it comes to increasing the shoals. The cory are on their own, whereas the glowlight and black neon at least have a "cousin" relationship of sorts.
 

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