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Alright, I started the tank with Christmas moss, it’s been going for a couple months now and is looking great.

Last week I rescaped my 20gal setup up. During the rescape, I added lots of plants.

I will go through each plant and what is happening so far with it.

Anubias nana
I’ve got three of these, they’re roots look great. A few of the leaves are starting to melt, but very slowly. I understand that melting leaves can be normal in my research that I have done so far. I’m not too worried about these plants as they are still looking very green and look otherwise healthy. They also spent two weeks in my quarantine tank before moving to this one a week ago. That’s a lot of change in a short amount of time.

crypts wendtii
have two of these, each plant had 4 leaves each roughly 1.5-2” long. So far each plant has lost one leaf to melting and both plants have new leaves growing. Only in 7 days! I imagine I may lose the other leaves but these ones are not growing too quickly to worry about maintenance just yet.

cork screw vals
None of them looked to healthy at the store, but I could skip a coffee for a day and throw $2 at a plant. As expected, existing leaves seem to be dying back a bit, but it’s already got at least one new leaf that is already about 2”

water wisteria
These ones were already 10-12” tall, came in a bunch of 4. They had enough roots at the bottom that i just stuck them into the substrate. Lots of the original leaves are melting away. But tons of new growth at the top of the plant, man does this thing grow quick. Most of these plants are also rooting quickly from both the first and second leaf nodes up from the bottom.

should I be maybe pulling these plants up, trimming them and replanting them with the new roots? Not sure what to do there.

red ludwigia
Same deal as the wisteria, although not as quickly. Lots of new growth, most of it is at the top, but also growing new leaves at existing leaf nodes. Rooting at the leaf nodes is a little less than wisteria as well. And one of them broke free, so I’ve been floating that one until it roots enough to plant.

water change day is tomorrow and I think before I change the water, I am going to trim most of the old leaves from the wisteria and lugdwigia. I hope this will encourage new growth.

Maybe I can cut the wisteria back and put the cuttings into my 10gal?

So with all that, I’m looking for any advice on how to go about maintaining, mostly the last two, plants. They’re growing much quicker than I anticipated.

Stay tuned below for some awful(ly) funny pictures: one where my diamond neon photobombed the picture I was trying to take of the wisteria roots, and another where I stuck my finger in the frame!
 

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These are really nice looking plants! I unfortunately have no advice, but I am curious what lighting you have for your setup? my 20gal came with a 9.6w light, and I'm wondering if that is enough to grow plants with.
 
I ended up buying an aqueon lid, and the light canopy came with one led bulb but a space for a second. I picked up a different one from the original to warm up the tones, I’ll have a look and see if I can find which ones I have...
 
I can’t find many specs on these lights. But there are two 32.5” bulbs, for the 36” fixture.
One of them is the Day White which is what the full lid came with and I filled the other slot with the Beauty Max. I like the setup so far. If anything I would swap the day white for a second beauty max bulb, but that is in the future when I have cash to burn.

I can’t figure out how to share the link, but you can find them on aqueon.com

ideally I would love to get the fluval 3.0, I’ve seen that light in action and want want want it. But that’s an expensive pill to swallow.
 
haha, I hear you!

So are you using T8 or LED? or something different?
They are LED. The website says they replace T8’s with 70% less energy.

as a contractor, almost all of my interior projects include switching to LED fixtures, and I’m really liking the new lighting, not just in the aquarium.

not sure I’d go any other lighting now.

I still have to rewire the under cabinet LED lighting this weekend and get that up and running. I’ll post pictures of that.

But for me, I’m all in on LED.
 
awesome! got it I just wasn't sure because you said "bulb". Do you know how many watts your bulbs are? I know nothing about mine other than it's 9.6w and i'm trying to find some kind of comparison point lol
 
awesome! got it I just wasn't sure because you said "bulb". Do you know how many watts your bulbs are? I know nothing about mine other than it's 9.6w and i'm trying to find some kind of comparison point lol
I’m sure it was listed on the packaging, but I can’t remember for the life of me, and I can’t see it listed on the website.
 
Aha, so 8w on a 20gal? I know watts with LED's mean next to nothing but it at least gives me some kind of indication of what I am working with.

Ok now that I have sufficiently hijacked your thread, can anyone help @Naterjm with his actual original questions?

Alright, I started the tank with Christmas moss, it’s been going for a couple months now and is looking great.

Last week I rescaped my 20gal setup up. During the rescape, I added lots of plants.

I will go through each plant and what is happening so far with it.

Anubias nana
I’ve got three of these, they’re roots look great. A few of the leaves are starting to melt, but very slowly. I understand that melting leaves can be normal in my research that I have done so far. I’m not too worried about these plants as they are still looking very green and look otherwise healthy. They also spent two weeks in my quarantine tank before moving to this one a week ago. That’s a lot of change in a short amount of time.

crypts wendtii
have two of these, each plant had 4 leaves each roughly 1.5-2” long. So far each plant has lost one leaf to melting and both plants have new leaves growing. Only in 7 days! I imagine I may lose the other leaves but these ones are not growing too quickly to worry about maintenance just yet.

cork screw vals
None of them looked to healthy at the store, but I could skip a coffee for a day and throw $2 at a plant. As expected, existing leaves seem to be dying back a bit, but it’s already got at least one new leaf that is already about 2”

water wisteria
These ones were already 10-12” tall, came in a bunch of 4. They had enough roots at the bottom that i just stuck them into the substrate. Lots of the original leaves are melting away. But tons of new growth at the top of the plant, man does this thing grow quick. Most of these plants are also rooting quickly from both the first and second leaf nodes up from the bottom.

should I be maybe pulling these plants up, trimming them and replanting them with the new roots? Not sure what to do there.

red ludwigia
Same deal as the wisteria, although not as quickly. Lots of new growth, most of it is at the top, but also growing new leaves at existing leaf nodes. Rooting at the leaf nodes is a little less than wisteria as well. And one of them broke free, so I’ve been floating that one until it roots enough to plant.

water change day is tomorrow and I think before I change the water, I am going to trim most of the old leaves from the wisteria and lugdwigia. I hope this will encourage new growth.

Maybe I can cut the wisteria back and put the cuttings into my 10gal?

So with all that, I’m looking for any advice on how to go about maintaining, mostly the last two, plants. They’re growing much quicker than I anticipated.

Stay tuned below for some awful(ly) funny pictures: one where my diamond neon photobombed the picture I was trying to take of the wisteria roots, and another where I stuck my finger in the frame!
 
Aha, so 8w on a 20gal? I know watts with LED's mean next to nothing but it at least gives me some kind of indication of what I am working with.
Wattage is actually only a concern if you’re worried about energy consumption. You really want to look at kelvin and lumens as a base of how to select a light.

you can get deeper into lighting, and then even a step deeper than that depending on how scientific you feel like being about it.

for me, I picked a few numbers that I liked and thought would work based on the depth of my tank setup. Chose my lights based on that, but since I was trying to select easy to grow plants, I didn’t really put too much time into really diving into the numbers, and can’t for the life of me remember what they were.

that’s was probably 4 months ago now that I bought them.
 
I just went through the whole light thing with the grow lights I set up in the basement for my winter vegetable garden, so I know what you speak of. The kit I have literally has no information on the light that is included other than the "9.6w" stamped on the light, so that's the only point of data I have to be able to compare to anything else. I only brought it up because if my lamp would have been 9w and you would have been rocking 20w worth of LED's on your setup, it would have been an indicator that what I have isn't enough light. As it stands, I think the light might be "powerful" enough, but I have no idea about the spectrum, the temperature, the PAR, etc.... What I'm trying to get at is whether my $50 plant shipment is all going to die on me, or whether they can eke by until I get the 125 with better lights set up. I guess I can always take one of the currentUSA lights that I have for the 125 and toss it on the 20 if things start to look terrible....
 
I just went through the whole light thing with the grow lights I set up in the basement for my winter vegetable garden, so I know what you speak of. The kit I have literally has no information on the light that is included other than the "9.6w" stamped on the light, so that's the only point of data I have to be able to compare to anything else. I only brought it up because if my lamp would have been 9w and you would have been rocking 20w worth of LED's on your setup, it would have been an indicator that what I have isn't enough light. As it stands, I think the light might be "powerful" enough, but I have no idea about the spectrum, the temperature, the PAR, etc.... What I'm trying to get at is whether my $50 plant shipment is all going to die on me, or whether they can eke by until I get the 125 with better lights set up. I guess I can always take one of the currentUSA lights that I have for the 125 and toss it on the 20 if things start to look terrible....
Time will tell really. If you’re trying to keep less hardy plants, then delving into terms like PAR is suitable.

I’m just getting my feet wet with live plants. And from the “eye” test, my cheap petsmart plants seem to be thriving and my other plants from better stores are doing well also.

I think I paid around $14 for my val, wisteria and ludwigia, so if I get some success from it, it’s a good start.

mute Christmas moss on the other hand, I’m glad that’s working out, I paid $30 for 2 golf ball sized tissue cultures, probably have 8 gold balls worth of growth, she would be pissed if I killed those
 
Does anyone have any tips on how to trim back my wisteria and ludwigia?

had to postpone the plant maintenance until tomorrow, today we went to cut down a tree for Christmas with my kids, then decorating and what not...
 

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