New female with problems

[Joby]

I bought 2 new females on Friday for my community tank as I'd lost one to dopsy and another turned out to be a male plakat so my numbers were down to 3. When I got them home and put them in the quarantine tank I noticed Ruby had a white spot on her head so started treating for ich.

Yesterday she started to clamp her fins badly and kept twitching and twice she jumped so much that she hit the lid of the tank Saphire is acting perfectly normally and shows no signs of ich or the twitching.

Sunday morning I noticed that Ruby's tail had started to rot and also it seemed that a patch of grey film had progressed up the body also. She has eaten but does not look a happy betta. I have isolated her with water from the tank in a beanie box so she doesn't pass anything on to the other female. I've done a quick search on the net and can't quite decide what it is she's got.

So my questions are

1. Is it plain fin rot or is it something else?

2. She's being treated for ich and the second dose is due tomorrow so can I add another med?

3. Should I treat the other female for the second problem even though she shows no signs at all?

Your help would be very much appreciated

Edited to post picture. Its very blurred but the best I could do

 

[Nuttygal! :0)]

Very sorry to hear that this has happened to you. I'd say carry on treating her for ich, but also add another med for fin rot. I suspect that is what it is, but I have never heard of a case with that patch of grey film that you described. If the other female is showing no signs of any illnesses at all then I don't think there's much point in treating her too.
Good luck, hope I've helped a bit!
P.S - she looks very pretty in that picture!

 

[Joby]

I just took her to the lfs where I bought her and he grimaced when he looked at her. She looked really bad when you put her up to the light. He's given me one of her sisters who looks identical and she looks absolutely fine. He couldn't understand why she had gone like that but said it could be the PH

So fingers crossed this one will be ok and my son might think she's made a miraculous recovery as he picked her out

 

[SRC]

also it seemed that a patch of grey film had progressed up the body also.

Fungus; Body Fungus (True Fungus)
Saprolegnia

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Description:
This is the most common type of fungus, and it will kill quickly so it's important to medicate as soon as possible. Fungal spores are always present in a tank. Fish are commonly infected with fungus as a secondary disease due to becoming weak and susceptible following some other disease or problem (such as physical damage).

Diagnosis:
The fish will have fuzzy patches of white or gray matter on its body or gills, usually grayish to white in color, or sometimes darker. A gray/white slimy, flattish patch can appear which will seem to have replaced a part of the fish's skin.

Fungus is easy to confuse with Columnaris. Note that when examined very closely, fungus has distinct hair-like filaments which shoot out, whereas columnaris is more like fuzz or lint.

Treatments include:
Place affected fish in an isolated tank for treatment; it is not necessary to treat the entire tank. This is because spores like these are always present... and only when there is something causing the fish to be susceptible will it contract this or any other problem. You can treat with salt, increased heat, malachite green, methylene blue, or even hydrogen peroxide applied to area (be *very* careful that this does not touch the gills; can be deadly).

Most importantly, identify the cause of stress to the fish and remedy the situation. Whatever it is should explain the fish's loss of immune system to allow the disease to take control. This may be physical stress caused by poor water conditions, elevated levels of ammonia or others, or maybe even aggressive fish bullying others.

Sorry about your fish, but at least you got her replaced

 

[Joby]

Thanks for that SRC

I guess that means Saphire and the new Ruby don't need treating for it then. This new Ruby seems very active and happy