Need 2 Ids

[Auratus]

My boyfriend bought these when I wasn't home
Apparently he hasn't learned that he'll loose his arms if he messes with my tanks.

Anyway,

He was told this was a clown pleco. But his eyes are white and he doesn't have a good pattern on him at all.

And this one "A spotted sailfin" .... I was mad... my tank is only 30g

 

[KathyM]

2nd one is L001, glyptoperichthys joselimaianus. Related to the gibby, these are big plecs, can be aggressive with other plecs too. He will get to 10"+, some report these getting as big as 16". Their markings look a bit drabber in adulthood, but they're stunning as babies. They grow fast so he'll outgrow your tank pretty quickly.

Not sure about the first. He's not a Clown Plec. Problem with buying under common names as opposed to L numbers is that they're often used for more than one species. Clown sucker plec is another common name for the common plec (liposarcus pardalis). More pics might help me work out if he's one of them, but the white eyes are a worry (it's not normal). There is something pretty common plec-ish about him. If he is liposarcus pardalis, he'll have cost a couple of quid and will grow to 12-15"+. They can also be territorial, so need plenty of space. I'm not 100% sure he is liposarcus though, maybe more pics will help?

 

[SuperColey1]

How big is the first one?

Blunt nose and colouring of the skin looks like my pitbulls (They are adult 2½-3 inches)
mine don't have white eyes though they are sort of cream with brown centre, but colouring defo looks like pitbulls. If so they do prefer to be in groups, and are not shy in the least or at least mine aren't they will sit in the front of the tank, and let you watch them all day long.

They go the greeny colour when they are on wood, plants or in the cave, but they go a lighter sandy colour when they are.................on the sand or light surface.

There are some pics on page 2 of my journal if you look.

 

[sargent_skank]

zombie plec

 

[xingumike]

Certianly isn't Lda25, a picture for comparison

 

[Auratus]

The second is going for sure, it's just so freakin hard to catch him in a tank filled with rocks.

Here are some more pics of the first.

 

[KathyM]

I'm beginning to wonder if he's a Chaetostoma species. But I've only ust woken up, so my head's addled.

 

[smithrc]

I'm beginning to wonder if he's a Chaetostoma species. But I've only ust woken up, so my head's addled.

I'd agree... now onto the hard bit - which one

 

[KathyM]

No idea - had a look on PC and there are a couple of similar ones, obviously not one of the commoner ones because of the lack of spots/stripes. Dunno.

 

[Auratus]

Well as long as he doesn't get too big I guess it's not a big deal . He's pretty outgoing, I find him on the front glass a lot. I looked on planet catfish at all the Chaetostoma but nothing looks like him.

The eyes are so weird. I hope it's normal