My shrimp died

[GuppyBreeder180604]

Hello. So i had 1 male and 2 female cherry shrimps in a 2 gallon planted and cycled aquarium yesterday they where fine and eating and today they all woke up dead, why could this be?
I checked parameters and they are as follows:
nitrate: 0 ppm
nitrite: 0 ppm
total hardness: 300 ppm
chlorine: 0 ppm
kh: 150 ppm
ph: 8
i let them eat all the brown alge and then once there was no alge i fed them half a pleco wafer around 4 days before they died. They all had the "white ring of death".

 

[PheonixKingZ]

The “white ring of death” most likely killed them. The WROD is caused by unsuccessful molting.

It is a shame...

 

[vanalisa]

The “white ring of death” most likely killed them. The WROD is caused by unsuccessful molting.

It is a shame...

Is the WROD contagious?

 

[FishGuest5123]

You need more calcium in the tank. Get some Beta-G. What is your temp? I add just a teeny pinch once a week.

 

[PheonixKingZ]

Is the WROD contagious?

No, it is not. It’s not an actual “disease” it is just caused by unsuccessful molting.

 

[GuppyBreeder180604]

You need more calcium in the tank. Get some Beta-G. What is your temp? I add just a teeny pinch once a week. View attachment 113291

my temp is 19 degrees celcius. And thanks i will get it next time i get shrimp

 

[Essjay]

With a GH of 300 ppm, there is a lot of calcium in the water.

When I first got cherry shrimps about 7 years ago, all of mine died as well. The last one was a berried female so I moved her to my quarantine tank. She too died but as I was emptying the tank I found a lot of baby shrimps and most of these survived to form the basis of the colony I have today.

I too was advised back then to use beta-g. I was told there is a shrimp specific bacterium which causes shrimps to fail to moult properly. Beta-g isn't a cure, it's an immunity booster which helps the shrimps to fight off the bacterium. I had problems getting the beta-g (the first pack was lost in the post and the seller would only send out a replacement after 7 days) so the last female had died before it arrived. But I used it in the tank with the shrimplets and in the 'proper' tank where I moved them after they were big enough. Once that pack of beta-g reached the expiry date, I didn't bother replacing it.
I can't say whether or not beta-g stopped the baby shrimps from dying but they did survive and grow into adults.


19 deg C is right at the bottom of the range for cherry shrimps. They might do better a bit warmer, say 21 deg C.

 

[Ch4rlie]

I too was advised back then to use beta-g. I was told there is a shrimp specific bacterium which causes shrimps to fail to moult properly. Beta-g isn't a cure, it's an immunity booster which helps the shrimps to fight off the bacterium. I had problems getting the beta-g (the first pack was lost in the post and the seller would only send out a replacement after 7 days) so the last female had died before it arrived. But I used it in the tank with the shrimplets and in the 'proper' tank where I moved them after they were big enough. Once that pack of beta-g reached the expiry date, I didn't bother replacing it.
I can't say whether or not beta-g stopped the baby shrimps from dying but they did survive and grow into adults.

That’s interesting, do you happen to know what is Beta-G exactly?

I have not heard of this before bit obviously not being around for 2 years I may have missed this product or whether it’s been around for I while, I don’t know.

It’s a bacterium supplement of some sort by the sounds of it. But what kind of bacteria though?

Think will need to do a google search and do a bit more research as obviously when I do get a tank again I dearly would love to have some shrimps around again.

The water supply here in Oxfordshire where I live in U.K is ridiculously hard and would not be surprised if it’s around the same levels as the op, 300ppm. So am seriously considering doing a RO system to have own safer water for my tanks.

But doing your research upfront is key to learning what you can and cannot do, especially when it comes to shrimps who are far more sensitive to water parameters.

 

[Essjay]

It's beta glucans, a polysaccharide. Also used by humans as a form of soluble fibre claimed to reduce cholesterol in the blood, one of the so-called super foods.

I was told to use it 7 years ago; it's supposed to boost shrimps' immune systems so they can fight off the bacteria that causes them to die when trying to moult. The pack I has was the same one as in Deanasue's post.


Cherry shrimps are supposed to be one of the easiest shrimps which can live in soft to hard water with a wide range of pH. But they do need a minimum GH of about 4 dH in order for them to have enough calcium for their exoskeletons. Recommended temperature ranges vary from site to site with some recommending 19 to 23 deg C while others say 22 to 28 deg C. Unfortunately there isn't a Seriously Fish for shrimps.

 

[Ch4rlie]

Hmm, seem Beta-G is a natural polysaccharide. Which is a Immune system modulator of sorts, means it Immune System to make it as efficient as possible.

It kinds of triggers the immune system to function the best response to trap and consume foreign cells that does not belong on the body.

Ah, essjay posted while I was typing this

I agree with temperature range by the way, would not recommend temps of over 23C to be honest as this does seem to shorten their lives somewhat, I tend to keep temp between 19-21c for shrimps as most fish can cope with these temps as well, apart from obvious choices like Betta and rams, but would not keep shrimps with those anyway as otherwise shrimps be expensive tasty snacks!

 

[GuppyBreeder180604]

That’s interesting, do you happen to know what is Beta-G exactly?

I have not heard of this before bit obviously not being around for 2 years I may have missed this product or whether it’s been around for I while, I don’t know.

It’s a bacterium supplement of some sort by the sounds of it. But what kind of bacteria though?

Think will need to do a google search and do a bit more research as obviously when I do get a tank again I dearly would love to have some shrimps around again.

The water supply here in Oxfordshire where I live in U.K is ridiculously hard and would not be surprised if it’s around the same levels as the op, 300ppm. So am seriously considering doing a RO system to have own safer water for my tanks.

But doing your research upfront is key to learning what you can and cannot do, especially when it comes to shrimps who are far more sensitive to water parameters.

yeah my water is quite hard. I live in guadalajara jalisco in mexico and our water supply comes from rio verde and the chapala lake which is fed mainly by the lerma river, a river that is born in the mountains of central mexico thus carrying a lot of minerals in its way down