my fish are acting weird

[TheeMon]

my fish used to be brightly colored and happy, they used to come out when i fed them, they used to come out when they seen me, kinda... now they are hiding my yellow labs have this ugly looking black around there faces n stuff, and some light black horizonal lines(those are because of stress i think) they dont eat much, they barely come out of hiding... something is wrong but i dont know what...

fyi there african cichlids (mbuna) now i know they like to hid n stuff but this isnt it, somethings wrong

oh fyi i just got over treating ich, i dunno if that makes a difference

and there in a 40gal breeder tank

 

[vantgE]

What else you got in there, i know you have them with new world this could be stressing them out depending on what species

definately sounds like somethings wrong likely just stress but stress will lead to real health problems so you gotta fix that

 

[TheeMon]

3 red zebras 3 yellow labs and 1 convict, and 3 plecos oh and 1 pretty crappy breed of demonsi... i hand 3 mainago's but theyve died

 

[TheeMon]

the convict is light colored too(witch means hes stressed) should i throw in some stree coat?

 

[vantgE]

well it's always good too do a watter change try that a stress coat and some more hidey places, build up some rocks a bit if it's stress and it's sounds like thaty too me if you don't see any other symptons it cause your waters bad maybe overstocked to much i hear plecos a re messy, or the demasoni's beaten them all up

be my guess at least

 

[Angel Lady]

What is your Ph, ammonia, nitrites, and Nitrate, If they are changing colors it sounds like a Ph problem to me. My cichlids do this when my ph gets to low for them.

 

[TheeMon]

the demonsi's still a babie, like 3/4inch long i was worried about him geting beat up ill test the ph now, brb ok these test strips arnt very acurate but its around 6ph, i know thats low but how bad can it hurt them?

 

[vantgE]

my guess is definately ph u know 7.4 is too low and i don't know how it hurts them but thats real real low bakeing soda should get it up

 

[TheeMon]

i cant do a water change until monday... i doubt we have baking soda too and if we do i got no idea where its at

ill go look though

whats the ratio for gallons per teaspoon?

 

[vantgE]

one teaspon per gallon should bring it to a good lavel but it'll stress them out more to add that now just a little bit maybe a quater of that per gallon and then add half to the next couple water changes and then three quarters to th next and so on but i wouldn't do the full thing as your new world might not like that

anyone Know the proper Ph for a convict?

 

[Bol]

If you've got baking soda at home, it's probably in the kitchen, near the spices. If you happen to have a box in the refrigerator or freezer, to help with odors, DO NOT use that box. It's probably already absorbed all sorts of yucky stuff.

At the store, it's with the baking goods, like flour and sugar.

However, it's tough to say how much baking soda to add, without knowing the KH (carbonate hardness, or 'total alkalinity') of your water, and what you want your pH to end up being.

I can say this, though... one teaspoon per gallon is going to be WAY too much. That'd be 40 teaspoons (13.3 tablespoons, or 6.67 ounces) in your tank!

But, messing with your water chemistry can lead to big problems. You really should get test results for ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, and KH first, in my opinion.

 

[vantgE]

oh man your right glad you caught that just a type mistake i was referring to what Exiled uses meant 1 per 10gallons

I don't know much about water chemistry and stuff but i read in a aquarium booklet by wardley that you can change it with wardley product then add another wardley product called bullseye to keep the ph steady and i remeber people advisesing against useing products to change Ph and that soda would be better but no one has menioned then bullseye stuff?

 

[TheeMon]

i dunno but something else ive noticed, one of my yellow labs's back tail is nearly gone someones choping on him... + another yellow lab(one thats got that black on him) has some white fungus growing around his mouth, and is really weak, i stuck my hand in the water and scooped him out and he barely even tryed to get away... he has some fin tearage but not alot...


i dunno but its scaring me... AND seriously i cant do much untill monday... i can get some backing soda tomarrow but cant put it in the tank till tomarrow night... ill be at my grad party + family junk i cant leave

think theyll be ok untill then?

should i feed them even though they dont eat it right away?(it does get ate apperantly because its gone when i look again)



also think i should take my 2 sick labs out and throw them in the quranteen tank to heal? but that tank has a female betta and some feeders i got stuck with... i dont care about there condition(i care about the betta just more so for the labs) + the water is ice cold so id havta throw a heater in there asap

i only got tonight maybey tomarrow morn(if i wake up early) to do what yall sugjest before monday... i wish i didnt have all this important junk todo...

ill just keep steming them off w/ that stress coat maybey thatll work untill i can do a water change n stuff

 

[vantgE]

your zebras are fine?
those are also agresive fish there could be more things causeing the stress as well but i think that's all it is,
i'm not sure if stress coat does much but it can't hurt if you think it's the zebras may be better to move them instaed of the labs if there is room if not just get the labs out if you don't have a place a closed watter bottle full of hot watter in
goodluck

that's all i can think of maybe someone else can add?

 

[TheeMon]

i dont know if there ok too, there hiding as well, they seem to have all of there fins though