moscow blue additional gene on midnight strain?

[xipo817]

My friend gave me midnight strain guppy(they are called full black in japan).
They seems very similar to moscow blue guppy.
I heard that moscow blue guppy has moscow blue additional gene on x chromosome.
Does midnight strain has it too?
I don't know well about moscow blue additional gene either.
Can anybody explain what is that?
I have never kept moscow blue guppy so if someone has the experience of crossing them with other strain, I like to know its result,because I want to cross midnight with other strains.

 

[Sgooosh]

My friend gave me midnight strain guppy(they are called full black in japan).
They seems very similar to moscow blue guppy.
I heard that moscow blue guppy has moscow blue additional gene on x chromosome.
Does midnight strain has it too?
I don't know well about moscow blue additional gene either.
Can anybody explain what is that?
I have never kept moscow blue guppy so if someone has the experience of crossing them with other strain, I like to know its result,because I want to cross midnight with other strains.

full black are moscow black guppy
they are both very similar i think
both moscows

ill update you if i see baby moscow blue guppies, they are not pure moscow blue they have dumbo gene, but results are similar

 

[xipo817]

Thank you for your reply.
I didn't know about dumbo gene.

 

[Sgooosh]

Thank you for your reply.
I didn't know about dumbo gene.

oh, yours probably does not have dumbo gene then, it makes the fish have black fins

see how this one has solid black fins?

 

[emeraldking]

My friend gave me midnight strain guppy(they are called full black in japan).
They seems very similar to moscow blue guppy.
I heard that moscow blue guppy has moscow blue additional gene on x chromosome.
Does midnight strain has it too?
I don't know well about moscow blue additional gene either.
Can anybody explain what is that?
I have never kept moscow blue guppy so if someone has the experience of crossing them with other strain, I like to know its result,because I want to cross midnight with other strains.

With moscow black, moscow blue, moscow purple and moscow green, the moscow gene is on the x-chromosome. So in general, females are more of importance to pass on the moscow gene. And not the males. A lot of people look at the phenotype, while it's important to look at the genotype instead. Therefore, a lot of people look at the male. For the male is covered with the dark color on the grey base color. That's a mistake a lot of people make.
If you'd cross a male full moscow to a non-moscow female guppy, the male offspring will only show moscow on the head and/or chest. Most of such crosses are mostly called metal heads. If you'll cross a full moscw female to a non-moscow male, the majority of the male offspring will also show moscow on the entire body. But this doesn't mean that the finnage will also be dark. That depends on the genetics of the male used.

oh, yours probably does not have dumbo gene then, it makes the fish have black fins

see how this one has solid black fins?

The dumbo gene as a lot people call it, is actually the kalymma gene. But carrying the kalymma gene does not imply that the fins will be dark colored. Dumbo pectorals can also be different colored or even translucent.

 

[Sgooosh]

With moscow black, moscow blue, moscow purple and moscow green, the moscow gene is on the x-chromosome. So in general, females are more of importance to pass on the moscow gene. And not the males. A lot of people look at the phenotype, while it's important to look at the genotype instead. Therefore, a lot of people look at the male. For the male is covered with the dark color on the grey base color. That's a mistake a lot of people make.
If you'd cross a male full moscow to a non-moscow female guppy, the male offspring will only show moscow on the head and/or chest. Most of such crosses are mostly called metal heads. If you'll cross a full moscw female to a non-moscow male, the majority of the male offspring will also show moscow on the entire body. But this doesn't mean that the finnage will also be dark. That depends on the genetics of the male used.

The dumbo gene as a lot people call it, is actually the kalymma gene. But carrying the kalymma gene does not imply that the fins will be dark colored. Dumbo pectorals can also be different colored or even translucent.

Ah ok that is why some of my dumbos are less colored and some more colored